My shop build

[STx]

After waiting a week for the wind to lay down, we got a little break yesterday with 5 -7 and an occasional gust to 10. My wife and I decided to start on the roof and after getting the insulation rolled out and 1 panel up in 4 hours we were beginning to doubt the ability of 2 people to get this job done. As we were getting the 2nd panel in place, a gust of wind grabbed it and put it on the ground and I decided that discretion is indeed the better part of valor and called for help. I should have a crew here Saturday or Sunday to get it knocked out.

Of course, we did have to leave the one piece of insulation exposed overnight and, wouldn't you know it, I just woke up to the sound of rain on the metal roof of the house. Not a lot but, enough that the patio is wet. Radar looks like that's it for us for today, hopefully it didn't soak that insulation so badly that it needs to be removed and trashed and it'll dry out today. We'll roll some 6 mil plastic over it this afternoon if it does dry out, I guess we should have done that yesterday but, there wasn't any rain in the forecast.

I did finally get the primary disconnect and sub-panel installed so they power company can come set my meter. I was hoping to have that this week, I've been ready since Tuesday, it's looking like it's going to be next week though. We also got the 2nd rollup door hung yesterday as well after a minor misstep that almost cost me an arm. It was completely my fault, I forgot to tighten the axle set screws before pre-tensioning the door spring so when I started to unroll it, it wasn't controllable. We managed to get it back down, roll it up and do it right with just a little damage to my bicep right at the shoulder and some scratches on the door paint, it could have been much worse if a couple of things had gone just a little differently.

I've always been told that killing a cat is bad luck. Yesterday morning, I had to dispatch a feral cat that was after my chickens and my day was crap so, I guess it's true. I didn't want to shoot the cat, I have 5 of them myself (2 here and 3 back in Cypress with my daughter, all indoor only) and really like cats, I'd hoped the cat gods would forgive me since I've historically been a friend to cats and was just protecting my livestock, I guess they didn't see it that way. Next time I have to remove one, I'm going back to bed until the next morning.

I guess today I'll start getting my EMT bent and installed and pulling some wire for plugs and lights so that if the PoCo ever does show up, I'll be ready to go.

 

[STx]

After calling several contractors recommended by my building manufacturer and not getting any of them to follow through with the promised bid or return call, I ended up getting a neighbor to help out with some bodies. A couple of them have some experience with metal roofing and we got the roof on yesterday but, still need to install the rake trim and gutters.

The concrete contractor set my anchor bolts just a little off so, the building is about 1" out of square. No big deal on the walls but, it was a problem with the roof. My plan was to square off the end walls, since that's where the overhang is, leave a little overhanging on each end wall and just cut it and cover the problem up with rake trim. I argued about it with one of the "experienced" guys for about 30 minutes and finally just let him do it his way because we weren't getting anywhere and the job needed to get started if we were going to finish, especially with rain forecast for this afternoon. End result was that the roof is now not square on the side walls or the end walls and I'm going to have to trim not only the end walls for the rake trim but also the side walls to remove the saw tooth and fix the overhang for the gutters. It's extra work for me and I'm a little irritated by it but, there's no way I was going to get the roof on alone so, I guess I'll get over it. If this wasn't a 1/12 roof that you can't see from the ground with gutters to hide the problems, I'd be a lot less understanding.

Plan is to finish the rake trim and gutters today and start moving stuff in. I'm still waiting for the PoCo to come set the meter but have started on the electrical.

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry you had the square problem. Metal siding/roofing is nonforgiving. Any squaring issue regardless of how small is going to surface.

I totally understand the dilemna you found yourself in regarding your helpers.

I was concerned about getting my bolts "wet set" properly so didn"t do it that way. Drilled my holes in cured concrete and used anchor studs.

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to your progress.

 

[EddieWalker]

I've tried several times setting bolts before the pour, and in every case, there is at least one that turns out to be off. I cut it off with the grinder and then drill a hole in the cured concrete where I need it. Now I just do like Richard said, and drill every hole. SDS and SDS Max drills just melt through the concrete, so it's actually faster and easier to do it that way.

When installing metal roofing, I attach two long tapes to the gable end of the roof. One at the peak, the other at the fascia. Then I pull them out and either mark on the purlins where they should end so I'm parallel the entire distance, or I measure them as I go. It's amazing to see how a metal R Panel can get off by just a 16th of an inch, then it turns into an 8th and becomes a monster to get back in line again.

Congratulations on your progress. When it's all said and done, you wont even remember these little setbacks!!!

 

[STx]

Hopefully, I remember some of it just so that I learn from them for future projects. Some of this stuff could have been avoided if I'd just known some things going into this that I do now. I did manage to get the rest of the rake trim and gutters on today. I'm not really happy with the way the rake trim and peak boxes have come together but, I'll figure out a way to make it look presentable.

Just some minor trim stuff left, the rake trim closure and the and the corner boxing at the rake trim and gutters. I also still need to put the downspouts on. We're supposed to get 1/2" - 3/4" rain tonight so I went ahead and moved all the tools that have been in the outside "shop" that I've had to cover all the time into the shop. It's nice to have it all inside and not have to worry about the rain.

Tomorrow, I'm going to setup the pallet racks and start getting stuff organized and then hang the LED High Bay lights. Hopefully, the PoCo gets the meter set tomorrow or Tuesday, I'm at the point now that I need more power than the generator can provide.

 

[GLyford]

I built a porch two summers ago, and all the post bases were in slightly the wrong spot, these were the type with the tangs that go into the concrete. So I cut them all off with an angle grinder and drilled for epoxy studs. I had enough extra epoxy to seal over all the tang locations to keep water out.

I had a cheapo import hammer drill my Dad had abused, and it stripped its last gear on the first or 2nd hole (out of 6). Since the concrete was still green, it surprised me to be able to drill the rest with a regular 1/2" drill with no problems.

Between the new holes and the position allowance in the brackets I had no more problems (the posts not being centered on the sonotubes only makes me twitch a little, I still prefer that to the porch being out of square).

The first shed I built on this property was 1" out of square once the walls were up, I'm thinking the slab it was on had a slight twist. I had a crew of helpers, I was going to pull the top square with a come-along before the roof went on but got outvoted by the "let's get it done before dark" crowd. It is shingled, so other than some trimming on the sheathing it still went together OK, and you certainly can't tell by looking.

So I completely understand both sides of your experience...it's frustrating, but it's done, we cope and move on.

 

[STx]

I haven't done the downspouts, corner boxes, rake trim end boxes or screwed the rake trim down on the walls but, we got almost an inch of rain last night and everything was dry inside, so that's awesome! If you look closely at the peak box on the left side, you can see where the roof problems become evident. Because of the way they set the panels and where the ribs ended up, I'm not able to get the rake trim to match up on this side so the peak box is a little akimbo. I'm hoping that when I screw it down to the walls I'll be able to hide it a little better.



I got my pallet racks moved into the shop this morning and started getting some stuff moved onto them. I had just put everything in on the floor last night so that it would all be out of the rain. I've been covering things with tarps when I knew rain was coming, keeping it loosely covered otherwise, it was nice to not have to go tie everything down yesterday or worry about it when the rain started.



This is where I've been working for the last 9 months. It kept the sun off my back but, that's about it. I couldn't work when the wind was too strong or when it rained. I can't tell you how nice it is to be getting this mess cleaned up and to be able to start getting organized again, it's been very frustrating not being able to find things when I need them. The container is housing almost everything that I had in a 3,000 square foot shop before moving down here permanently. All of it will be going into this one but, I've got taller walls here so I'll have more upstairs storage space than I had before. It's still going to be a little tight until I get a cover built off the back (I'm thinking 25 x 50) to store some of the stuff that needs to be out of the sun and rain but not necessarily inside. I wish I could've gone bigger with this build, like a 50 x 100 but, I wouldn't have been able to afford the slab for that, much less the building...lol

 

[ovrszd]

Congratulations on your first rain!!!! You've accomplished a lot!!!!!

Caution about moving in too much before you get your wiring, etc., done. You'll have to move it all. But then, with a forklift that might not be too hard!!!!

 

[STx]

Congratulations on your first rain!!!! You've accomplished a lot!!!!!

Caution about moving in too much before you get your wiring, etc., done. You'll have to move it all. But then, with a forklift that might not be too hard!!!!

I'm leaving the walls accessible right now and have a pretty good idea where I need plugs (every 4 feet gets a quad outlet on a 20A circuit). The area where the pallet racks are won't be getting any electrical, it's just a storage area for inventory and other stuff, I never needed outlets over there in the last shop.

I haven't built any traps since I started this shop build in December and have a lot of back orders I need to get caught up on. Plus, I've got to start putting some money back into the bank account instead of spending it all.

It'll take me about a month to get caught back up and get some inventory stocked again, then I'll install the septic, build out the bathroom and get the area around the shop graded better and put some recycled asphalt down. I'm just moving the bare necessities in to get the traps built right now. All the parts and pieces I have stored in the container will stay there for a few more months but, the tools are all coming into the shop. Those are what I'm getting tired of not being able to get to.

 

[ovrszd]

I'm leaving the walls accessible right now and have a pretty good idea where I need plugs (every 4 feet gets a quad outlet on a 20A circuit). The area where the pallet racks are won't be getting any electrical, it's just a storage area for inventory and other stuff, I never needed outlets over there in the last shop.

I haven't built any traps since I started this shop build in December and have a lot of back orders I need to get caught up on. Plus, I've got to start putting some money back into the bank account instead of spending it all.

It'll take me about a month to get caught back up and get some inventory stocked again, then I'll install the septic, build out the bathroom and get the area around the shop graded better and put some recycled asphalt down. I'm just moving the bare necessities in to get the traps built right now. All the parts and pieces I have stored in the container will stay there for a few more months but, the tools are all coming into the shop. Those are what I'm getting tired of not being able to get to.

I hear ya. You are beginning to get on top of this project. That's gotta feel good!!!!!