Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor

   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor
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#51  
Apparently there is a Kioti dealer about 15 min away as well. Out of those, where might I get my best bang for the buck if I can swing a new one?


ETA: Apparently the dealer is part of a network that carries Kioti, the store that actually has them is an hour away
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #52  
That property would be perfect for me! lol I had to fence in my pasture by hand, slamming in Tpost with one of those fence pounder thingy ma bobs in June of last year, it was hot and miserable but on with the story.

It all depends on what you want to do with your property, in my experience a 445 or 455 will do just fine. Find one that's a 99 or 2000 with under 1000 hours that's been taken care of, $1500-$3500 and you shouldn't have too much trouble with it. My dad has a 445 he bought new in 2000 and we shared it for 2 years when I bought my house before I could buy one. I used it for stretching chainlink fence, cutting grass ext, he had the wide tires on his and the deff lock works wonders. I moved around a 1500lb trailer with it many times, used it for yard work ext, it handled all I needed and some, I had 3 head of cattle at that point.

The only reason I got a tractor was for feeding the cattle, I'm 26 and I knew if I had to handle square bales eventually I would wear myself out so now I feed with round bales, that dramatically reduced my labor feeding the cattle (I kept mine year around).

So back to what I would do in your situation, with your land and all the projects you could plan todo a tractor would be very useful BUT you can easily get by with a old 445 or 455 with a bit more physical labor from yourself.

If I had your place I would fix the fence first, make sure it's able to hold in livestock and I would buy 3-4 head of cattle and let them loose, they will keep the grass ate down and gain weight off it, late in the fall sell the cattle or butcher them, buy 400-500lb weaned calves in the spring and sell in the fall. With the cattle eating the grass in that section your left with under 2 acres to mow, a garden tractor won't sweat on that.

Most fence can be repaired by hand, stretched with a come along or garden tractor ext.

Cattle are easy to take care of, they don't really need shelter, they need some shade, fresh water and plenty of grass to eat, I didn't know anything about cattle, found a steer CL for cheap and brought him home, I had maybe 1/4 acre pasture fenced in, I fenced in by hand another acre and have 3 head but I have to supplement with hay sometimes due to lack of pasture. You won't need to supplement with 4-5 acres of pasture fenced in. Generally 1-2 acres per head of cattle.

As for transporting cattle, that can be done with a stock trailer or old 2 horse trailer, most sell for around $1500 but I have seen them needing work around $600, I have yet to buy one so I just use my dads 4x6 single axle trailer with a horse stall rubber mat on the deck, it will carry a 1100lb animal safely (1500lb axle) but I have a risk of them jumping out, I have bought 4 cattle total and hauled one to the butcher this way already and so far no probs, I halter there heads down so there not tempted to try to jump. 🤞🏻
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I also have chickens, super easy to take care of also.

I'm just south of Columbus Ohio, I would be willing to rent your pasture for a season and bring my tractor out to mend fence or whatever the pasture needs.

Another option is like another guy said is let the grass grow and let a local guy cut it for hay, not many guys would fool with 4-5 acres but a local guy that can drive the equipment over would. You will get paid something and not have to mow the pasture.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #53  
Apparently there is a Kioti dealer about 15 min away as well. Out of those, where might I get my best bang for the buck if I can swing a new one?


ETA: Apparently the dealer is part of a network that carries Kioti, the store that actually has them is an hour away

When I looked, it didn't seem to matter if the tractor was orange, blue, or red. New was $19k with tractor, loader and mower. Green was closer to $22-23k for the same thing. I would see if any have used inventory or unsold older models marked down. I would look at those used models Airbiscuit mention before, and try to see them in person. You could get one of them and some implements for what new would cost. I got mine used. It was 3 yrs old, but only had 144 hours on it so barely broken in, with the first couple of services done so that saved me some money too. You might be able to find something like that where someone got it, then sold it to get something else after hardly using it.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor
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#54  
I know if I do go new, Ill probably be able to swing a 1023/1025 and a belloy mower to get me started. I have a few K to put down but not enough to buy something outright
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #55  
If you buy a tractor and plan to mow with it, get Turfs, R4 tires are ok but mark up grass a lot worse, turf tires are better in snow than R4s are also. If I didn't buy used I would order Turfs.

I have 3 acres, all lawn/pasture and I have to keep my tractor off the grass a lot because it will mark it up. If you plan to mow with it I would stick with about a 2 series under 3k lbs machine.

I bought a 05 cabbed 4320 with 830h on it for about 1/2 what a new one was, I bought it off a man named Jared Morris owner Morris and Sons, he's just outside Xenia, I bought a 4320 off him and my buddy bought his 2013 Mahindra 28 Max XL with a belly deck, FEL and a backhoe for 14k, tractor had 320h on it.

+1 (937) 475-1705 Jared Morris, give him a call and see what he's got, he's a farmer that buys and sells tractors and equipment, he usually has 20-30 tractors, batwing mowers, attachments ext all kinds of stuff and reasonable, negotiable prices. He will let you test drive just like a dealer. He will deliver for a fee also. My dad found him in one of those tractor trader magazines, we drove out there and I shook hands on the 4320, called my buddy up and told him to come out and look at this Mahindra and he shook hands on the 28XL that same day.

Jared is a good dude and he worked with me, it took me 3 weeks to get financed on my tractor/ come up with 20% down payment and he kept his word and held the tractor for me.

Farm credit is 20% down for 60 months, most banks don't finance used tractors but I found Fairfield National would do a 72 month loan with 20% down which kept payments reasonable.

One advantage with buying new is the 0% interest for up to 84 months, that's nice. But much better deals used.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #56  
From what I found LS and Kioti will give the best bank for your buck. If you feel LS is too far away then I would look at Kioti.

You metioned the 1 series JD. I'm not against JD. I had a 2210 which is several versions before the 1 series. But unless you really want a JD or you really like the dealer, you will pay more money for less options with the JD. Simple as that.

But again, I suggest taking a look at and trying all of them within a reasonable distance.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor
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#57  
If its going to be new, itll be JD, Kubota or Massey. The other dealers I mentioned do not service, only sell, so thats a deal breaker

Which might be the best route to go of those 3?
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #58  
Buying new I only looked at JD E series, Kubota L series, NH Work master series, priced a little Case but never looked at it and the Mahindra 1500 series.

Of those the options, weight, power, lifting ability and price Mahindra won hands down, I was starting the paperwork on a 1533 when I found the 4320 for around the same money and have been totally happy with it, I would have been happy with the 1533 but was a bit more bang for the buck in the used deere.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #59  
If its going to be new, itll be JD, Kubota or Massey. The other dealers I mentioned do not service, only sell, so thats a deal breaker

Which might be the best route to go of those 3?

Gotcha.

In that case reliability wise you can't go wrong with any of the 3. It needs to come down to price, how YOU feel on the tractor (layout,etc) and how you feel about the dealership and their service department.

When you do look at them some things to look at: The foot pedals, with JD and Massey it is a 2 pedal side by side design. Kubota is a single heal/toe design. With the loader bucket and how it attaches: Kubota and Massey use a SSQA (skid steer quick attach), JD uses their own system.

For me out of the 3 without having any numbers in front of me I would be leaning towards Massey.
 
   / Need guidance in selecting Mower vs Yard Tractor #60  
Time for Some Test Drives

Sooooo, your making progress. Lots of suggestions offered. You've narrowed the brands. Time to kick some tires - actually get the look and feel. First pass at window shopping probably won't get you to a final decision, but you will learn a lot. See how the dealer treats you, see how the tractor looks and feels to operate, learn about features. There will be a lot absorb, so here's a chart to help you record what you learn (you could add other columns, but it's a start).

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