Need Help: Matching tractor to land
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Soundguy
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First.. welcome.. you've come to the right place.. we can help you spend your money /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Second.. you have very nice land. I'm envious /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
253 ac.. that's a good hunk. normally I'd suggest something big.. like for open mowing.. or big logging..doesn't look like you are doing much open mowing. and logs are already thinned.
Seems like you may be in line for a mid size.. say 30-40 hp range.. small enought to get in and out.. you will need to decide if you want to tote 5' or 6' implements ( including mower.. and then size the tractor accordingly ). It's tough buying too small a tractor.. but then again.. it's tough if your tractor won't drive thru the woods!
Are there any future plans for opening it up?
I'm looking in the crystal ball and predicting that you will get lots of suggestions based around a 4wd shuttle or hydro tranny unit, with a fel and 30 to 40 hp.. etc.
Soundguy
Second.. you have very nice land. I'm envious /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
253 ac.. that's a good hunk. normally I'd suggest something big.. like for open mowing.. or big logging..doesn't look like you are doing much open mowing. and logs are already thinned.
Seems like you may be in line for a mid size.. say 30-40 hp range.. small enought to get in and out.. you will need to decide if you want to tote 5' or 6' implements ( including mower.. and then size the tractor accordingly ). It's tough buying too small a tractor.. but then again.. it's tough if your tractor won't drive thru the woods!
Are there any future plans for opening it up?
I'm looking in the crystal ball and predicting that you will get lots of suggestions based around a 4wd shuttle or hydro tranny unit, with a fel and 30 to 40 hp.. etc.
Soundguy
dknarnd
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'm looking in the crystal ball and predicting that you will get lots of suggestions based around a 4wd shuttle or hydro tranny unit, with a fel and 30 to 40 hp.. etc.
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Isn't that the truth about 99% of the members here are using something that falls within those specs.
I think it was a good suggestion someone mentioned as to what locals are using. You can get a lead on the local dealers this way also. Personally I could not imagine running those hills with a 60 to 80 HP tractor, logging roads can have some serious ruts and the turns are going to be sharp and steep. I would want something with good visability to the ground, and not a high center of gravity.
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Isn't that the truth about 99% of the members here are using something that falls within those specs.
I think it was a good suggestion someone mentioned as to what locals are using. You can get a lead on the local dealers this way also. Personally I could not imagine running those hills with a 60 to 80 HP tractor, logging roads can have some serious ruts and the turns are going to be sharp and steep. I would want something with good visability to the ground, and not a high center of gravity.
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Try this in the winter:
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Cowboyjg
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Howdy neighbor and fellow newbie. I pass by your place on my trips from Fl to my 30 acres of heaven up near Johnson City. I too have been going round and round about tractors and what would be appropriate for the tasks at hand and planned. Personally I have become enamored with the Kubota line followed by Kioti. I am currently entertaining the M49UD. This is a reasonably priced utility (CUT's are in such demand that it seems the true utility prices are more workable) Unlike you I have about 12 acres of pasture/hay to care for to go with 18 standing timber. This unit is beefy enough to take care of both environments.
BTW.....I would be happy for any feedback here. I've been reading the forums for several months now and have found them be about the best thing since sliced bread. And seeing as you're sharing pics.... Click here for picture 1
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BTW.....I would be happy for any feedback here. I've been reading the forums for several months now and have found them be about the best thing since sliced bread. And seeing as you're sharing pics.... Click here for picture 1
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RedRocker
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( That's what I started out looking at: skidsteer track loaders.
But I was told that they're bad on slopes because of COG and narrow track width.
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Hmmm, the COG is a lot lower than a tractor. If money were no object with the implements, I would have leaned toward something like the ASV.
But I was told that they're bad on slopes because of COG and narrow track width.
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Hmmm, the COG is a lot lower than a tractor. If money were no object with the implements, I would have leaned toward something like the ASV.
<font color="blue"> ( Howdy neighbor and fellow newbie. I pass by your place on my trips from Fl to my 30 acres of heaven up near Johnson City. ) </font>
You travel up the new I-26 extension? My place is just off of the Wolf Laurel exit. My northern property boundary is the TN state line (and the Appalachian Trail).
Here's an aerial topo of my property
Aerial Map
The more I look at the Kioti line, the more impressed I am. I'm kind of looking at the DK45 and DK55. I think the DK65 is just too large for the trails I want to maneuver on. There's a dealership about fifteen minutes from where I currently live. And there are a couple of dealerships within 30 miles of my place in NC.
Does anyone here have practical experience with a tracked skidsteer loader? Can they handle serious inclines?
This is just the bottom portion of one of the trails and the picture doesn't do it justice, but . . . here's a pic of an acquaintance coming down one of the trails I want to go up on my new tractor.
Trail
Thanks again for all of the input, everyone.
You travel up the new I-26 extension? My place is just off of the Wolf Laurel exit. My northern property boundary is the TN state line (and the Appalachian Trail).
Here's an aerial topo of my property
Aerial Map
The more I look at the Kioti line, the more impressed I am. I'm kind of looking at the DK45 and DK55. I think the DK65 is just too large for the trails I want to maneuver on. There's a dealership about fifteen minutes from where I currently live. And there are a couple of dealerships within 30 miles of my place in NC.
Does anyone here have practical experience with a tracked skidsteer loader? Can they handle serious inclines?
This is just the bottom portion of one of the trails and the picture doesn't do it justice, but . . . here's a pic of an acquaintance coming down one of the trails I want to go up on my new tractor.
Trail
Thanks again for all of the input, everyone.
HammerFour
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Does anyone here have practical experience with a tracked skidsteer loader? Can they handle serious inclines?
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No, they can't.
They are too narrow and two short ( in length ) to be stable on any serious incline.
As they say on the Gran Prix commercial, wider is better.
Your best bet, imo, is a 4wd cut with the wheels set to their widest track setting.
You may have to go with ag tires/wheels to get that ability some of the tractors I have seen that come with r4 industrial tires aren't adjustable ( r4 tires are on one piece rims, where the ag tires are on split adustable rims,my Kubota ( ag adjustable ) and my FIL's NH ( r4, one piece rim ) are this way ).
I think 30 - 50 hp is plenty, it doesn't look like you will need a huge amount of hp for just some grading and trail maintenance.
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No, they can't.
They are too narrow and two short ( in length ) to be stable on any serious incline.
As they say on the Gran Prix commercial, wider is better.
Your best bet, imo, is a 4wd cut with the wheels set to their widest track setting.
You may have to go with ag tires/wheels to get that ability some of the tractors I have seen that come with r4 industrial tires aren't adjustable ( r4 tires are on one piece rims, where the ag tires are on split adustable rims,my Kubota ( ag adjustable ) and my FIL's NH ( r4, one piece rim ) are this way ).
I think 30 - 50 hp is plenty, it doesn't look like you will need a huge amount of hp for just some grading and trail maintenance.
Cowboyjg
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> You travel up the new I-26 extension?</font> )</font>
Yes Sir....I'm actually out between Elizabethton and Mt City.
I was looking at the kioti also. was looking at the DK45S. Thats the perkins engine model. Tried to find Youngs but they only had a phone# and havn't gotten around to calling them yet. I'm close enough to VA that I thought of going there. they are only 2 more miles away from me than youngs but the drive is easier.
Coming up mid week and plan on making the rounds.
Yes Sir....I'm actually out between Elizabethton and Mt City.
I was looking at the kioti also. was looking at the DK45S. Thats the perkins engine model. Tried to find Youngs but they only had a phone# and havn't gotten around to calling them yet. I'm close enough to VA that I thought of going there. they are only 2 more miles away from me than youngs but the drive is easier.
Coming up mid week and plan on making the rounds.