Need help please.

[K5lwq]

Thank you K5lwq! Thank you for calmly and politely explaining this. I don’t understand why others jumped me. But that is ok. Shame on them. Because I am a woman trying to clean up this old farm by myself I thought I would come here and check it out. I have learned a lot on here. I simply come on and read and learn. I have never done anything like this. But 4 years in and my tractor about paid off I am happy. I thought getting help and sharing ideas was what this forum was about. I have really enjoyed reading some of your posts and learning from you. Thank you to those guys that helped me put on my first oil filters and checking other things. I was so proud. So far some of you have helped me immensely. Thank you. I kept posting because I needed help and couldn’t get anyone to answer. The “retired dealer” was going through a nasty divorce and he was blowing up my phone. I was not going to get involved in that so there were some things said at the dealership that never should have been said from him. And they were said in front of customers that were not being waited on and in front of the new guys that do not know me. So later we had words. I got my tractor back with the plug attached to the water sensor just like I asked my mechanic guys to do for me. That is from the mechanics that left the Mahindra dealership. I trust them. That is all I wanted but they wanted to check it out when it wouldn’t crank. They did and they were just trying to help but dang, that was a lot of money to go through something that should be simple. That is why I kept posting. I just wanted my plug (dealership sold me the wrong part because they were getting interrupted) on the water sensor done correctly and my tractor back. I love my tractor and didn’t want another one. I got it back. The EUC could be taken from another tractor on the Mahindra lot and tried if everything checks out then there is a break in the harness. Or maybe not. I feel like it is something simple. But after taking a lot of deep breaths and a lot of praying I called and talked the manager at the Mahindra dealership and we had a great uninterrupted conversation and he is trying to help me. Then this past weekend at a family get together the “retired dealer” calls. I had to end up blocking him. I know who he is and what he is and 1. I am not going out with him and 2. He shouldn’t be in this, he is retired. 3. He is an a&&. The new manager listened to me this last week and was polite and professional. Very nice and wants to help. I am thankful. He asked me to make a video and send it to him of me trying to crank the tractor and then where it is leaking from the fuel filters. I did and he is sending guys down here to work on my tractor so no more transporting. When he saw the plugs and wires he said I can’t believe that was sent back to you that way. Well, me either but the “retired dealer” that wanted to take me to dinner and was blowing up my phone told me all about the turn over and what a mess everything was in. They are actually telling people the mechanic that put on my plug is on vacation. He quit his job there 4 months ago. So I already knew what was going on there because the dummy blowing up my phone told me everything going on but nothing is his fault. Yep. Gotcha. When he yelled at me on the phone after me telling him what was going on with my tractor I had to block him. I am proud of this old woman for putting in my fences and concreting every post in. I am proud of designing the layout for my animals. I am proud of designing my own barn and about to put the roof on and yes I will be doing it myself with my tractor because I am sick and tired of me researching, designing this project and men not listening when they don’t have a clue because it is not your regular barn. Give them some wood and they can build but they can’t follow directions and yes there was help from a friend that is an architect. And I am tired of being lied to and ripped off by men. So there is your “woman’s splaining” DaBear3428. I just got in from church and see that. Really?
Thank you so much for helping me in the past. I haven’t read the other lists so if you were trying to help me then thank you. I am exhausted from this. I still come on here and read your posts and that helps me learn. I have the manual’s from Bill’s Tractor that some of you suggested and they help me. I also see derogatory remarks that should never be posted. Uncalled for. We all need help at times and when you are ugly to people I want to ask why? I thought the forum was here to help each other and learn. So I will be back to read and learn some more. I will skip over the ugliness. Bless you. When people have trouble they certainly don’t need to be downgraded. They need to be lifted up. Now, with that being said I am going out to enjoy this beautiful day. I hope you all have a wonderful day! Even you DaBear you ol grouch!

Ace, most everyone on TBN wants to help. Sometimes people that are upset add to much information about the scenario and not enough about issues with the equipment. That opens the door for emotions to enter in and not thinking clearly about the problem.

Several things are still a question for me to be able to help find a solution. Some real testing will have to be done and likely will require a dealership diagnostic computer to trace out the problem. It is possible that when the sensor plug was cut or replaced something shorted and killed part of the ECU but not likely.

One question is when the tractor ran for you when only 1 wire was connected to the sensor, did you see any warning lights on the dash?

Second question is when you had water in the fuel way back when, do you recall how many wires where on the sensor then?

Third question is did you have some change in tractor performance that prompted you to get the service done or was this just the normal scheduled service?

If all else fails, maybe dinner with the retired owner if he promises to fix your tractor would be a fair trade. Not really!

 

[kneedeep]

There is a dealer or repair shop somewhere that can fix your tractor. Owning a trailer to take and pickup will help to make it less expensive.
Seems to me everything cost about 2.5 times more. Parts have gone up as well as labor.
I have dropped over 1k on several big repairs as I have a 30 yr old (one owner) and a 10 yr old second owner with well over 1k hrs. Electrical and fuel pump issues can be costly.
Spent way more on my ‘06 Duramax. And it is still prone to take a dump any time it is driven.

I look at the cost to replace vs cost of repair when faced with major repairs.
I’ve been looking through some dark and gloomy glasses here lately.

 

[arrow]

"The tractor will not run".
Allow me to reiterate my question as different people explain things differently and I for one do not care what your sex is I am just trying to acquire a better understanding. I mean they've talked people down to land an airplane whose pilot just had a heart attack so this should not be that hard. It's a matter of just leaving the side shows out of the picture but I would agree that some men treat woman horribly. I just had a service rep at a Ford dealership, attempt to sell one of my daughters a battery she didn't need for $368 on her Ford Focus during an oil change.

You turn the key and what happens? 1.Nothing. No noise at all from the engine. 2. The engine cranks over but will not start.

 

[IndyJay]

"The tractor will not run".
Allow me to reiterate my question as different people explain things differently and I for one do not care what your sex is I am just trying to acquire a better understanding. I mean they've talked people down to land an airplane whose pilot just had a heart attack so this should not be that hard. It's a matter of just leaving the side shows out of the picture but I would agree that some men treat woman horribly. I just had a service rep at a Ford dealership, attempt to sell one of my daughters a battery she didn't need for $368 on her Ford Focus during an oil change.

You turn the key and what happens? 1.Nothing. No noise at all from the engine. 2. The engine cranks over but will not start.

Simple things first, eliminate the obvious. Is it in neutral? Is the PTO disengaged? Are there lights on the panel when you turn the ignition on?

 

[3Ts]

To add to the above post. Is the battery charged?

 

[DaBear3428]

Thank you K5lwq! Thank you for calmly and politely explaining this. I don’t understand why others jumped me. But that is ok. Shame on them. Because I am a woman trying to clean up this old farm by myself I thought I would come here and check it out. I have learned a lot on here. I simply come on and read and learn. I have never done anything like this. But 4 years in and my tractor about paid off I am happy. I thought getting help and sharing ideas was what this forum was about. I have really enjoyed reading some of your posts and learning from you. Thank you to those guys that helped me put on my first oil filters and checking other things. I was so proud. So far some of you have helped me immensely. Thank you. I kept posting because I needed help and couldn’t get anyone to answer. The “retired dealer” was going through a nasty divorce and he was blowing up my phone. I was not going to get involved in that so there were some things said at the dealership that never should have been said from him. And they were said in front of customers that were not being waited on and in front of the new guys that do not know me. So later we had words. I got my tractor back with the plug attached to the water sensor just like I asked my mechanic guys to do for me. That is from the mechanics that left the Mahindra dealership. I trust them. That is all I wanted but they wanted to check it out when it wouldn’t crank. They did and they were just trying to help but dang, that was a lot of money to go through something that should be simple. That is why I kept posting. I just wanted my plug (dealership sold me the wrong part because they were getting interrupted) on the water sensor done correctly and my tractor back. I love my tractor and didn’t want another one. I got it back. The EUC could be taken from another tractor on the Mahindra lot and tried if everything checks out then there is a break in the harness. Or maybe not. I feel like it is something simple. But after taking a lot of deep breaths and a lot of praying I called and talked the manager at the Mahindra dealership and we had a great uninterrupted conversation and he is trying to help me. Then this past weekend at a family get together the “retired dealer” calls. I had to end up blocking him. I know who he is and what he is and 1. I am not going out with him and 2. He shouldn’t be in this, he is retired. 3. He is an a&&. The new manager listened to me this last week and was polite and professional. Very nice and wants to help. I am thankful. He asked me to make a video and send it to him of me trying to crank the tractor and then where it is leaking from the fuel filters. I did and he is sending guys down here to work on my tractor so no more transporting. When he saw the plugs and wires he said I can’t believe that was sent back to you that way. Well, me either but the “retired dealer” that wanted to take me to dinner and was blowing up my phone told me all about the turn over and what a mess everything was in. They are actually telling people the mechanic that put on my plug is on vacation. He quit his job there 4 months ago. So I already knew what was going on there because the dummy blowing up my phone told me everything going on but nothing is his fault. Yep. Gotcha. When he yelled at me on the phone after me telling him what was going on with my tractor I had to block him. I am proud of this old woman for putting in my fences and concreting every post in. I am proud of designing the layout for my animals. I am proud of designing my own barn and about to put the roof on and yes I will be doing it myself with my tractor because I am sick and tired of me researching, designing this project and men not listening when they don’t have a clue because it is not your regular barn. Give them some wood and they can build but they can’t follow directions and yes there was help from a friend that is an architect. And I am tired of being lied to and ripped off by men. So there is your “woman’s splaining” DaBear3428. I just got in from church and see that. Really?
Thank you so much for helping me in the past. I haven’t read the other lists so if you were trying to help me then thank you. I am exhausted from this. I still come on here and read your posts and that helps me learn. I have the manual’s from Bill’s Tractor that some of you suggested and they help me. I also see derogatory remarks that should never be posted. Uncalled for. We all need help at times and when you are ugly to people I want to ask why? I thought the forum was here to help each other and learn. So I will be back to read and learn some more. I will skip over the ugliness. Bless you. When people have trouble they certainly don’t need to be downgraded. They need to be lifted up. Now, with that being said I am going out to enjoy this beautiful day. I hope you all have a wonderful day! Even you DaBear you ol grouch!

you fail to understand that I was trying to help you, but in order to help you I need to understand what you need, unfortunately your posting style makes that difficult. If you feel that I was not trying to be helpful I apologize for that misunderstanding. but sometimes it is a skill to understand who your friends really are.

anyway Good luck

 

[Deleted member 371759]

After everything calms down I can't wait to see the solution to these issues. There is no difference between a diesel tractor and a diesel truck in theory. I would find someone experienced with diesel repair in your local area and offer to pay him/HER an appropriate amount, provide him the shop manual and let him/HER check it out. I can guarantee if they can troubleshoot a modern diesel truck they can trouble shoot a diesel tractor engine. Have him/HER make things right, get the tractor running and then you can resume your interactions with your dealer/s. This wont be free but your tractor will work and your dealer wont be able to point to butchered repair attempts as reasons to dismiss your future repair needs.

 

[DaBear3428]

After everything calms down I can't wait to see the solution to these issues. There is no difference between a diesel tractor and a diesel truck in theory. I would find someone experienced with diesel repair in your local area and offer to pay him/HER an appropriate amount, provide him the shop manual and let him/HER check it out. I can guarantee if they can troubleshoot a modern diesel truck they can trouble shoot a diesel tractor engine. Have him/HER make things right, get the tractor running and then you can resume your interactions with your dealer/s. This wont be free but your tractor will work and your dealer wont be able to point to butchered repair attempts as reasons to dismiss your future repair needs.

I would agree with your plan except i would substitute a experienced dealer for the truck mechanic.

 

[DaBear3428]

Ace, most everyone on TBN wants to help. Sometimes people that are upset add to much information about the scenario and not enough about issues with the equipment. That opens the door for emotions to enter in and not thinking clearly about the problem.

Several things are still a question for me to be able to help find a solution. Some real testing will have to be done and likely will require a dealership diagnostic computer to trace out the problem. It is possible that when the sensor plug was cut or replaced something shorted and killed part of the ECU but not likely.

One question is when the tractor ran for you when only 1 wire was connected to the sensor, did you see any warning lights on the dash?

Second question is when you had water in the fuel way back when, do you recall how many wires where on the sensor then?

Third question is did you have some change in tractor performance that prompted you to get the service done or was this just the normal scheduled service?

If all else fails, maybe dinner with the retired owner if he promises to fix your tractor would be a fair trade. Not really!

i agree with all of the above, also keep in mind that ECU are normally set up to be sinking inputs ie the power goes to the sensor then returns to the ecu so that shorting the sensor has no permanent effect on the ECU or sensor.

shorting the sensor will stop proper operation while the short exists but replacing the ECU or Sensor is pointless other that a poor man's trouble shooting process. which is why the techs recommending replacing the ECU is a warning sign that they do no know what they are doing.

a qualified tech knows how to test any and all sensors/ the ECU on the tractor, if they are doing the black box replacement game they are guessing.

 

[Chewwy]

. . . Owning a trailer to take and pickup will help to make it less expensive. . . .

Not really, unless you don’t count the cost of the trailer. Unless there is a need for frequent transportation, owning a trailer just for that purpose is not very cost effective. Tractors of this size are easily transported on a rollback tow truck for far less than the cost of a trailer and tow vehicle.