Neighbor borrowed my MF 451

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forrestfwl

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decatur, TX
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Massey Ferguson
When he brought it back, the clutch pedal was 6" higher than when he took it. What happened and how do I fix it?
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #3  
Welcome to the forum. Do you see any linkages attached to it bent up or replaced. Or is the seat moved ahead and the different possision of the reference point deciving you that the pedal is further out.
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #4  
When he brought it back, the clutch pedal was 6" higher than when he took it. What happened and how do I fix it?
My neighbor borrowed our 9N Ford and broke the three point hitch on a scraper blade. He descretely parked in back in the barn and didn't say a word. He now is not allowed to borrow anything. Period. Some peole have no respect for others property. Sounds like he was riding the clutch pretty hard. Maybe just an adjustment. I hope it's not serious.
 
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Here's a pic of the clutch position. I've travelled all week and this is the first opportunity I've gotten to send it. 2012-10-20_17-11-01_172.jpg
 
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The linkage looks fine and the seat has not been moved (I'm reupholstering it). I guess I'll adjust that linkage and see if the pedal will move back down to the normal position, knowing that I'm looking at a clutch replacement soon. I guess the tractor has to be split to replace the clutch?2012-10-20_17-11-01_172.jpg
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #7  
First, have you tried asking you neighbor what occured when the pedal position changed? Also, drop a not so subtle hint that you expect him to be responsible for repairs. If he gets upset by any of that count yourself lucky that he won't expect to use your equipment in the future.

Ken
 
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He's banned but he's fiendishly clever. I guess the price of tractor ownership in a semi rural setting is eternal vigilance. Thanks.
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #9  
First, have you tried asking you neighbor what occured when the pedal position changed? Also, drop a not so subtle hint that you expect him to be responsible for repairs. If he gets upset by any of that count yourself lucky that he won't expect to use your equipment in the future.

Ken

Ken, I agree, after he asks his neighbor what happened he can simply say ...I will let you know what the problem is and the costs to repair and smile....that ought to do it...
 
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Agree. I'll tell him when he gets out of jail.
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #11  
I was having a bad day yesterday so I wasn't as helpful as I fould have been. Have you looked at the online parts manual for your MF? For me I've found a lot of times I can get a good feel for how a system is supposed to be if I can study the parts illustration.

I still can't visualise how he did that to the pedal unless he snagged it on something. Does the clutch pedal still work ok, or is it stiff now?

I've had people borrow foolproof things from me and bring them back totally destroyed. Nothing is foolproof to a motivated fool.

Ken
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #12  
The linkage looks fine and the seat has not been moved (I'm reupholstering it). I guess I'll adjust that linkage and see if the pedal will move back down to the normal position, knowing that I'm looking at a clutch replacement soon. I guess the tractor has to be split to replace the clutch?
I would guess that he adjusted the linkage and that it can be adjusted back down.
Common courtesy would have been to mention "I adjusted the linkage so that the clutch fully disengaged, here is what I did" upon returning it.

Aaron Z
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #14  
when and if someone asked to borrow something like that...I have an answer prepared so it's said quick and with a smile. "Oh!, I never lend anything out with an engine, would you like to borrow my shovel and rake?" shows i'm a nice guy but...come on!
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #15  
Most likely a travel stop bumper has become dislodged. How much free pedal does it have?

FWIW, I NEVER loan anything for reasons such as this. I would much rather simply do favors myself for friends than loan equipment.

SDT
 
/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #16  
Most times that I have loaned tools I have regreted it.
 
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Bob77064 said:
Most times that I have loaned tools I have regreted it.

I come with the equiptment when somone asks to borrow it. Then there is no way they can damage it by not using it properly.
 
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forrestfwl said:
The linkage looks fine and the seat has not been moved (I'm reupholstering it). I guess I'll adjust that linkage and see if the pedal will move back down to the normal position, knowing that I'm looking at a clutch replacement soon. I guess the tractor has to be split to replace the clutch?<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=285570"/>

Is it possible that it got bent upwards from something striking it from below? The arch in the pedal seems extreme to me with the pedal platform pitched toward the motor more than the tractor seat. There is a little color change in to photo but that could be dirt or fading but could also be from some different paint after trying to straightening with a torch. Find someone with the same tractor to send you a picture of that pedal from the same angle.
 
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Hopefully you have it repaired by now. Mine, showing clutch pedal normal position. Check clutch adjustment setting in operators manual.

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/ Neighbor borrowed my MF 451 #20  
when and if someone asked to borrow something like that...I have an answer prepared so it's said quick and with a smile. "Oh!, I never lend anything out with an engine, would you like to borrow my shovel and rake?" shows i'm a nice guy but...come on!
Last year I broke my own rule and loaned the next door neighbor my weed wacker, came back ok
Any thing bigger is a solid NO, except for two people I trust, my son, and my brother
 

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