New 2017 Deere 2R series tractors

[Squidbait]

That's good Yanmar makes nice stuff. I'm interested to see the 25hp version when it comes out too.

Hello there Milo. If you are referring to the John Deere 2025R as the 25 horsepower version; John Deere is not going to make that model anymore. For 2017 they will just make the 2032R and the 2038R tractors. I was talking to one of the local JD dealer salesman, and that is what he told me. He stated/described that a that buying a 2025R was a step sideways from buying a 1025R (not really a step up) - you don't really gain anything. The 1025R has nicer features (the quick connect deck, extra fender light included, a better seat, etc.) and the same horsepower just a slightly smaller package.

You could always look at the new 3025E tractor. Basically a 3032E turned down to 25 horsepower.


Okay ignore this post. :duh:

 

[Paystar]

One of the 2R videos on you tube says there is a new 2025R small chassis coming later on.

 

[Milo]

One of the 2R videos on you tube says there is a new 2025R small chassis coming later on.

That's what I was referring to.

 

[Squidbait]

Hmmmm. Okay then. I guess the dealer salesman was wrong then. I will look up the video. You have my curiosity peaked now.

 

[Kubota 2350]

Hmmmm. Okay then. I guess the dealer salesman was wrong then.
I will look up the video. You have my curiosity peaked now.

Don't be too surprised, it took my salesman almost 2 weeks to find out about the new 6 year power train warranty when I ask him about it.

 

[Squidbait]

Don't be too surprised, it took my salesman almost 2 weeks to find out about the new 6 year power train warranty when I ask him about it.

I guess stuff like that can happen. :laughing:

You guys are correct. I guess I should have watched the video at started this thread to begin with. :duh:

 

[jhays]

I've been debating whether to get a 1025R or the 2038R. Local dealer says they will have the 2038R in a couple weeks to test drive. Got a quote for about $23,5 on the tractor and another $4K for the 72" belly mower. Pretty much $10K more than the 1025R. This 2038R should be more than I'd ever need, so I'm not sure it's worth the extra cash vs the 1025R. I am wondering how well it would do in tighter spaces and used mostly as a mower with some FEL and PTO work occasionally.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

I've been debating whether to get a 1025R or the 2038R. Local dealer says they will have the 2038R in a couple weeks to test drive. Got a quote for about $23,5 on the tractor and another $4K for the 72" belly mower. Pretty much $10K more than the 1025R. This 2038R should be more than I'd ever need, so I'm not sure it's worth the extra cash vs the 1025R. I am wondering how well it would do in tighter spaces and used mostly as a mower with some FEL and PTO work occasionally.

I really wanted a 2 series tractor for the mowing deck. The 1 series is not enough tractor for me, loader is not heavy enough, the 3 series is what I needed but found a used 4 series at a good price. That being said it's not too big, don't worry about buying too much tractor. As a mower and tractor, I think the 2 series is the way to go.

 

[Tractornewb]

JD seriously needs to make something that can compete with Kubota's B series. The current 2 series, for example, is way too big, and the 1 series is too small (for my needs anyway, I have 5 acres in the county).

I'd honestly like to buy a JD, but they don't make something that fits my needs. I've talked to my small JD dealer about this, and he says Kubota is totally eating JD's lunch in the compact tractor segment. The Kubota dealer is in town, and I'd have to pay sales tax on it, but if I bought something at the JD dealer, I would get the no tax farm incentive.

 

[jenkinsph]

JD seriously needs to make something that can compete with Kubota's B series. The current 2 series, for example, is way too big, and the 1 series is too small (for my needs anyway, I have 5 acres in the county).

I'd honestly like to buy a JD, but they don't make something that fits my needs. I've talked to my small JD dealer about this, and he says Kubota is totally eating JD's lunch in the compact tractor segment. The Kubota dealer is in town, and I'd have to pay sales tax on it, but if I bought something at the JD dealer, I would get the no tax farm incentive.

Make sure about the tax rates and how they are applied, if you and your location qualify for the farm rate then either dealer should be able to handle the paperwork.

About tractor sizes maybe it is just me but I find that all the popular brands seem to make many different sizes. You mention that a 1 series is too small and a 2 series is too big, how is that possible? I use an x700 l&g for small stuff and 4 series for larger jobs and manage to get everything done. Sometimes I would like to have a 6 or 7 series but not the payment book.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Make sure about the tax rates and how they are applied, if you and your location qualify for the farm rate then either dealer should be able to handle the paperwork.

About tractor sizes maybe it is just me but I find that all the popular brands seem to make many different sizes. You mention that a 1 series is too small and a 2 series is too big, how is that possible? I use an x700 l&g for small stuff and 4 series for larger jobs and manage to get everything done. Sometimes I would like to have a 6 or 7 series but not the payment book.

I thought the same, I have a 4 series tractor and the only thing I can't really do with it is run a proper belly mower to mow the lawn with it, everything else from very light duty to heavy almost past its capacity, it can handle well.

A guy down the road that sells round bales lets you load up your own hay if he knows you long enough, I use his 6 series when ever I buy hay off him to load my trailer, that thing with the FEL is handy ish lol, I end up not being able to see the spear when picking up bales and I almost have to stand in the cab to see what's going up there but it's got the auto leveling FEL which helps a lot.

I hop in my 4 series and it's noticeable louder, but maneuvers like a go cart compared, great visibility of the attachment on the FEL.

His is a 6130 I believe, manual with the peddle on the floor for throttle which also makes it handy. Mine is 3 range HST, and for small jobs like moving round bales, it's so much more efficient. But granted it's my tractor, I know my tractor and have had lots more seat time than a big tractor like his, actually his was the first large tractor I have driven.

If visibility was better that 6 series could handle small jobs with no probs, it's turning is tight enough, nothing compared to my 4 series though.

I can see a 1 series getting out grown very fast, a 2 series would work for 85.5% of jobs on a 5 acre mini homestead, 3 series is about what's needed and a 4 series is a bit more than needed but not too big, I have 3 acres but have cattle and feed with round bales. I have never found a task my tractor was "too big" for. Only other thing would be physically fitting in spots like in fence openings or barns ext.

I know I can only park my cabbed tractor in one spot in the barn, it's too tall to fit in any of my lean to's or garage, a non cabbed wouldn't be and issue.

 

[bigtiller]

mmmmmmm, I've been drooling over every 6000 series tractor I've seen since they came out in 1992.

 

[jenkinsph]

BFJohn,
I have found that the x749 with 4x4ws, 3ph and 540 rear pto handles all of my lawn mowing and maintenance with small attachments. It also helps reduce labor and hand work around trees when working on larger jobs. That keeps the cab out of branches and tight spots.

The 4x20 series does have the mid pto option and offered a belly mower in the past years. But I try to keep the tractor and backhoe off the grass as the weight compacts a lawn too much.

 

[charlton289]

If you have a Massey Ferguson dealer close by I would check out the 1700 series I just got a 2016 1705 with a loader, 60" belly mower for about 8,000 less than a JD. I also checked out the kubota 2501 but it was about the same as the JD also checked the JD 1025 but for what I heard about them I went with the Massey and I got 76 hrs. on it and that little tractor is just as tough as the others with more fel lift than the JD. just passing it on if you can check them out I' am very happy with mine. My 1705 is 22.5 hp with the ag tires which work good in the mud and snow and don't tear up my yard either good luck on your search. if you want to see some of the things I do with mine go to the Massey Ferguson owning -operating forum.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

BFJohn,
I have found that the x749 with 4x4ws, 3ph and 540 rear pto handles all of my lawn mowing and maintenance with small attachments. It also helps reduce labor and hand work around trees when working on larger jobs. That keeps the cab out of branches and tight spots.

The 4x20 series does have the mid pto option and offered a belly mower in the past years. But I try to keep the tractor and backhoe off the grass as the weight compacts a lawn too much.

I have a little cheap Husqvarna GT garden tractor with 54in deck to mow the grass, I bought it off Craigslist last year, yeah my 4320 could handle a belly mower but I would never mow with it lol, if I had a finish mower it would be a 3pt. A 72in belly deck would just barely cover the tire tracks.

Also my tractor does have a mid PTO installed but I have no use for it currently.

I haven't had a issue of the tractor rutting up the yard, I have drove it on the grass when it was wet/soggy unloading round bales and you could see I had been there but wasn't cutting ruts or tearing up grass. It could but I did my best to not run down the same path and move while turning.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

mmmmmmm, I've been drooling over every 6000 series tractor I've seen since they came out in 1992.

The new 6 series runs as much to more than my house lmfao, cab isn't even big enough to live in

 

[jenkinsph]

If you have a Massey Ferguson dealer close by I would check out the 1700 series I just got a 2016 1705 with a loader, 60" belly mower for about 8,000 less than a JD. I also checked out the kubota 2501 but it was about the same as the JD also checked the JD 1025 but for what I heard about them I went with the Massey and I got 76 hrs. on it and that little tractor is just as tough as the others with more fel lift than the JD. just passing it on if you can check them out I' am very happy with mine. My 1705 is 22.5 hp with the ag tires which work good in the mud and snow and don't tear up my yard either good luck on your search. if you want to see some of the things I do with mine go to the Massey Ferguson owning -operating forum.

Which JD are you comparing your GC 1705 to that is 8000 more?

 

[RalphVa]

JD seriously needs to make something that can compete with Kubota's B series. The current 2 series, for example, is way too big, and the 1 series is too small (for my needs anyway, I have 5 acres in the county).

I'd honestly like to buy a JD, but they don't make something that fits my needs. I've talked to my small JD dealer about this, and he says Kubota is totally eating JD's lunch in the compact tractor segment. The Kubota dealer is in town, and I'd have to pay sales tax on it, but if I bought something at the JD dealer, I would get the no tax farm incentive.

Yeah. I got a 2025R a year or so ago. It's really too big. I checked out a B2301 and actually rated it higher than the JD but stayed with the JD dealership, since they treated me well and are the closest. The 2025R is the best FEL I've ever had. Wish they'd do a 2019R, e.g. like my old 4010 with 18.5 hp but with all the goodies on my R. The 4010's fuel use was 0.46 gph vs. about 0.6 or more on the 2025R, even though I keep its rpm down because I don't need the 25 hp.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Yeah. I got a 2025R a year or so ago. It's really too big. I checked out a B2301 and actually rated it higher than the JD but stayed with the JD dealership, since they treated me well and are the closest. The 2025R is the best FEL I've ever had. Wish they'd do a 2019R, e.g. like my old 4010 with 18.5 hp but with all the goodies on my R. The 4010's fuel use was 0.46 gph vs. about 0.6 or more on the 2025R, even though I keep its rpm down because I don't need the 25 hp.

Until the day you decide to run a 5ft brush hog or 72in belly mower and find out it was the perfect Hp lol.

So physically it's not too big? Just too much HP?

Edit: the 2 series is only available with a 62in deck

 

[ovrszd]

I thought the same, I have a 4 series tractor and the only thing I can't really do with it is run a proper belly mower to mow the lawn with it, everything else from very light duty to heavy almost past its capacity, it can handle well.

A guy down the road that sells round bales lets you load up your own hay if he knows you long enough, I use his 6 series when ever I buy hay off him to load my trailer, that thing with the FEL is handy ish lol, I end up not being able to see the spear when picking up bales and I almost have to stand in the cab to see what's going up there but it's got the auto leveling FEL which helps a lot.

I hop in my 4 series and it's noticeable louder, but maneuvers like a go cart compared, great visibility of the attachment on the FEL.

His is a 6130 I believe, manual with the peddle on the floor for throttle which also makes it handy. Mine is 3 range HST, and for small jobs like moving round bales, it's so much more efficient. But granted it's my tractor, I know my tractor and have had lots more seat time than a big tractor like his, actually his was the first large tractor I have driven.

If visibility was better that 6 series could handle small jobs with no probs, it's turning is tight enough, nothing compared to my 4 series though.

I can see a 1 series getting out grown very fast, a 2 series would work for 85.5% of jobs on a 5 acre mini homestead, 3 series is about what's needed and a 4 series is a bit more than needed but not too big, I have 3 acres but have cattle and feed with round bales. I have never found a task my tractor was "too big" for. Only other thing would be physically fitting in spots like in fence openings or barns ext.

I know I can only park my cabbed tractor in one spot in the barn, it's too tall to fit in any of my lean to's or garage, a non cabbed wouldn't be and issue.

You are comparing a CUT to a Utility tractor. Big spread.