New buyer, looking for advice

   / New buyer, looking for advice
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Thanks Vic.

I have a large gravel driveway and I was thinking of a box blade instead of just a regular blade to maintain it. I guess a pair of remotes will make it easier to control. I will also have some fencing to put up so I was thinking of getting a post hole digger sometime in the future.

As for the mower, I have a lot of "field" so a brush hog of some sort would be very handy. How do these differ in construction/design from a mower? Do they use cutting blades similar to a mower?


Sean :cool:
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #42  
Maybe look at a yanmar you might save enough to buy a nice Zturn for the yard too I have a YM1700 the thing is a work horse If you went a little bigger 4wd with fel you prob would be very pleased i did this with my 1700 and a 4ft bush hog there is 7 ac there almost took all day and welcome
 

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   / New buyer, looking for advice #43  
   / New buyer, looking for advice #44  
The other thing that I have in the back of my mind is that there may be some money to be made with a tractor. The added expense of a bigger tractor would be justified in this case. Jobs like fencing, tilling, snow removal, brushogging, etc... can generate some extra money and could possibly be profitable. :)
Sean :cool:
I'm pretty much caught up with the tractor projects on my place, so am sorta interested in doing some small task part time on the side.
My Snag with hiring out my tractors is I have no way to transport the tractors .
This means I would have to buy both a trailer and a truck to pull the trailer with.
That and the insurance would force me to put more hours in a week than I care to.
15 to 20 hours a week just ain't enough to cover all those extra expenses .
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #45  
So the R4 tires are a good choice for a do-all type machine? I am more than likely buying a used tractor so that is probably going to be an added cost if I can't find a machine with them already. How much would four new R4 tires for a BX23-24 size tractor run me?


Sean :cool:
I'd just stick with bar tires on a small light tractor such as a BX.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #46  
LBrown,

I'm glad we agree the BX is a small light tractor. :D

Vic
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #47  
I wrestled with the same problem and in the end came down to the JD 2520 and the NH T1110. I chose the T1110 as it had roughly the same power but weighs 900 lbs less. This allowed me to cut the grass even with this wet spring we had. I use a 60 in rear mount mower, a 50 in tiller, a 4ft rotary cutter, 60 in rear blade, and a 54 in snowblower. The tractor runs all the implements very well. I have 35 acres and have been making atv/snowshoe trails. I am not very experienced with tractors, but the T1110 has hit the mark between yardwork and bush work.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #48  
Struggled with many of these same conflicts and inward debates when we took possession of our rural piece last spring. There is point, I think, in remembering that once you have done some specific tasks, the need for a larger tractor goes away, once in the everyday, maintenance mode. For example, I faced an excavation job. (Ended up hiring that out for peanuts) I really, really thought I need a B. Frankly, who doesn't like a bigger machine?

Taking possession of the property was taxing in other financial ways. There is a hundred pressures in a hundred different directions. Some reality sets it. No, I really didn't need a B series, I only wanted a B series, and the other financial needs of taking possession of a new property help bring things into focus.

Meanwhile, my neighbor, great guy, did a few chores for me with his B. As he manuevered about with the FEL, I got to admit, there was some turf damage. Nothing that doesn't heal, but still. It was confirmation for me.

So I settled into reality, for me and everyone is different with different needs. But I believe the advice that new property seems to require one thing, but two years from now? That is harder to judge, but it often IS true that the tasks are more routine. I mean, you can't expect to fall tree, dig stumps, and put in roads forever on a piece of property under 5 acres. Some common sense there, it seems to me. Just one man's view and experience.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #49  
OK I have a few questions.

What's a remote and is that important for my needs?

What's better, a belly mower or a rear mower? (price is always a factor but I want a nice cut)

What does the quarter inching valve replace? I assume it is to set the rear attachment height right? Many reviews about the quarter inching valve are negative. Is that because it has detents for the positions and sometimes you would like one in between?


Sean :cool:

Remote is a pair of hydrailic outlets on the rear of the tractor that is controlled by a lever. It allows you to hook up hydralic devices that do work for you. Wood splitter, hyd top link, many ag machinery uses hyd cylinder to raise or lower, hyd motors can spin things, some snow blowers have hyd chute rotator, dump wagons use it, and so on.

Technically your loader will have 2 pair of hyd remotes, and the backhoe will have one pair unless you get a pto pump model. The loader ones are being used, so they are out. The backhoe remotes may also be a regular set of remotes when the backhoe is removed - but often it is a special hose without the levers and doesn't give you real remotes. Depends on how it's plumbed.

If you don't know what it is, you don't need it. Once you have one and realize what implements it allows you to have, you couldn't be without it!

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Myself, I would cut the lawn around the house with the lawn mower you have, and work down the rest of the grass 2 or 3 times a year with a brush hog rough mower. You've stumbled into a pet peeve of mine, so allow how I am just ranting & raving here & don't mind me, but what is with people buying up land & then just wasting fuel & time on making it a huge worthless lawn? I don't get that! :) Out here in the country, it just doesn't make any sense. I see town folk do that, & it just puzzles me.

The belly mower will be easier to manuver around things, will end up cutting a tad better.

Rear mowers come in finishing type, which will cut about as well as the belly mower, or they come in brush hog style, which whack the grass off as well as small trees, brush, etc. Depends which you buy, you can get a smooth cut or a quicker, rougher cut. The rear mounted mower will be slightly harder to manuver around trees, fences, and so forth - turn to the left, and the rear mower will move slightly right first, so you just can't get as close.

Belly mower is typically a bigger pain to mount & remove, and is in the way for other work.

Which is better? I'd do lawn mowing with your lawn mower, and service the rest of your property with a brush hog rear mounted mower. For me that would be better, but to each their own.

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Don't know what a 1/4 inching valve is in this contrext, must be a Kubota feature. (I think Kubota is a good machine, don't take this as negative....) Because of all the tractor experience, I'd like a position control that gives smooth 3pt positioning as most good tractors these days.

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You have 5 acres. You have 1 acre of trees that you don't really want to remove, maybe clean up a little.

What in the world do you need a backhoe for??????? Here on the farm I have a 5 acre grove, wife & I just cleaned up about a 1/2 acre this spring. Used a chainsaw, landscapre rake, and brush hog. Oh, and the loader of course. We spent 4 days on it, went from fallen trees to stacked firewood & grass seed worked into the ground.

Where does a backhoe come into play? That is 4 or 5 grand, lot of money, to accomplish what that you can't do with the other tools?

Mind you, it's a cool tool, I own a 1/2 of one with a friend, if you can afford it & want it have fun; I'm just asking, is this a toy you want, or something you actually need?

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The endless batttle - I want a small tractor to mow lawn and not ever leave a wheel mark ever, and I want a big usefull beast that pulls over trees, digs to China with a backhoe, and is very stable & solid for loader work a payloader might choke on....

Ok, I'm a bit extreme. :)

Ag tires pull well in soft dirt. Nothing else will.

Turf tires take good care of a lawn, don't pull much at all.

Industrial tires wear well on pavement, and don't do much else at all well. They have bars so they look like ag tires, and they have a lot of flat spots on the ground so they look like they will be good on the lawn. Best of both worlds right? But.... Really they wear well on the highway, and don't do well at either task you want to do.

I think on many tractors, the rims need to be different sizes for all 3 types of tread, so you will have some expense swapping out types - you need new rims as well as tires.

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A small CUT or smaller with a loader loves to get real light in the rear end. You will need weight on the rear end to use the loader. The best route to go is fluid in the tires. But - a lot of fellas don't like that for compacting the lawn.

So, do you want to be safe with the loader, or light on the lawn? Then explain your answer to your spouse - their reaction will say a lot about how well they like you. Vs the lawn.


Just some random thoughts. I'm trying to look at this in a funny, what do you want to end up with, tone. I don't mean it in your face, as it could sound. Just a little bit different look at it maybe. :)

--->Paul
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #50  
I just joined tractorbynet so sorry if i am doing this wrong but i am getting ready to buy a bx 25 and wonder if anyone knows the towing capabilities of the bx 25. one of the things I will be doing is pullling a 1' trailer with 10-15 kids on it at halloween so i want to make sure it is pretty safe to tow. i would estimate the trailer weighs 1800 lbs and 15 kids at 80lbs each would put me at 3000 lbs. Any advice.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #51  
I just joined tractorbynet so sorry if i am doing this wrong but i am getting ready to buy a bx 25 and wonder if anyone knows the towing capabilities of the bx 25. one of the things I will be doing is pullling a 1' trailer with 10-15 kids on it at halloween so i want to make sure it is pretty safe to tow. i would estimate the trailer weighs 1800 lbs and 15 kids at 80lbs each would put me at 3000 lbs. Any advice.
A 1' trailer is pretty small. Do you stack the kids 15 high?
Read the threads about what to pull and how in the safety forum.
A PROPERLY adjusted trailer would have a tongue weight of about 300 to 450 lbs, but be careful with kids moving around.
Also the whole thread about operational tips for newbies.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #52  
Thanks! I ment a 16' trailer. Just noticed i left the 6 out. I kind of thought that you figure about 10% of total weight as tongue weight so it would be 450 to 500 lbs like you said. The 3 pt hitch is rated to lift 670lbs so if I use it to tow it should hold it and no doubt pull it I just need to be careful stopping it. It is all level ground with no hills.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #53  
Just check your owner's manual and it should give you a max weight to haul incl the trailer and it's contents
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #54  
Gronk,

Maybe you've got all your q's answered, I really don't want to read 6 pages of posting to find out, but FWIW, I would not buy the backhoe for 5 acres and apparently one-time need to build a moto-cross track. Rent something if necessary and see if you get by with just the Fel for that work. You'll have plenty of things to spend that money on, including other implements and maybe a slightly larger tractor that will meet your needs longer.

I also would recommend keeping your current mower and reserve the tractor for brush hogging, and other heavier work. Good luck and enjoy.
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice
  • Thread Starter
#55  
Just thought I would give an update.

First of all thanks to all for the helpful info. Without it I would have ended up buying something that did not fit my needs.:confused:

Ok speaking of needs, I think I may have just been a little too anxious in getting a tractor when I first moved into the new house. The need was more "want" and I realized this with hardly a day to spare. :rolleyes: Somehow, I had gone from leaning towards a BX to having negotiated a deal on a new Jinma 284 with FEL and BH. I opted out of either until I had some time to actually see what I would need for this yard, which was a good thing, because I didn't need a tractor this past summer.:eek:

A local motocross park caught my attention and at 39 years old I decided to try motocross for the first time. I got hooked! :p Both my wife and I have "enduro" bikes that are plated for the street but that we ride mostly off-road, now we also have MX bikes just for the track. The boys also love doing it so that is where we spent much of our free time, especially since the park is a mere 3 kms from our home. All that to say that there wasn't really any need to do anything with the yard that required a tractor. That is, until the park closed for the season, and I wanted to build an MX track for the boys that was suited to them. (mini track at the park is really for beginners and has no real jumps while the adult tracks have huge jumps and deep sand not suited to small wheels)

So we laid out the track mostly following existing trails that the kids made while play riding and decided to build it. Now there was a definite need for a tractor. One of my riding buddies built himself a towable backhoe and that was a huge help but I still needed a loader for moving dirt so I bought what I consider my "starter" tractor.:D

I drove twelve hours with my oldest son to get this 1980 Ford 1100 4x4.

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It had a few issues like a broken water pump and some leaking cylinders but everything worked and it looked to be in good overall condition so I brought it home. I replaced the water pump and tightened all the FEL mounting bolts and have been moving dirt and making jumps with it for a week now. :)

I'm pretty happy with it. It is a bit smaller than my friend's Ford 1220 but that is a good thing right now. As it is there are still some places I cannot fit in without cutting some trees. The only two things that I wish it had are a hydrostatic transmission and a diff lock. The HST on my friend's 1220 works great and my little Husky is hydrostatic so having a manual takes a little getting used to. Also, and maybe I'm just trying to do too much with it, I often get the turf tires spinning as I try and scoop up a bucket of dirt. We have a lot of clay content here so the dirt is heavy and sticky so I think I just need to learn to take smaller bites.

This winter I plan to fix the leaky cylinders, replace the cracked (but not yet leaking) hoses and maybe give it some paint and new decals. I also plan to properly mount some lights on it to help out after dark. ;)



Sean :cool:
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #56  
Just thought I would give an update.

First of all thanks to all for the helpful info. Without it I would have ended up buying something that did not fit my needs.:confused:

Ok speaking of needs, I think I may have just been a little too anxious in getting a tractor when I first moved into the new house. The need was more "want" and I realized this with hardly a day to spare. :rolleyes: Somehow, I had gone from leaning towards a BX to having negotiated a deal on a new Jinma 284 with FEL and BH. I opted out of either until I had some time to actually see what I would need for this yard, which was a good thing, because I didn't need a tractor this past summer.:eek:

A local motocross park caught my attention and at 39 years old I decided to try motocross for the first time. I got hooked! :p Both my wife and I have "enduro" bikes that are plated for the street but that we ride mostly off-road, now we also have MX bikes just for the track. The boys also love doing it so that is where we spent much of our free time, especially since the park is a mere 3 kms from our home. All that to say that there wasn't really any need to do anything with the yard that required a tractor. That is, until the park closed for the season, and I wanted to build an MX track for the boys that was suited to them. (mini track at the park is really for beginners and has no real jumps while the adult tracks have huge jumps and deep sand not suited to small wheels)

So we laid out the track mostly following existing trails that the kids made while play riding and decided to build it. Now there was a definite need for a tractor. One of my riding buddies built himself a towable backhoe and that was a huge help but I still needed a loader for moving dirt so I bought what I consider my "starter" tractor.:D

I drove twelve hours with my oldest son to get this 1980 Ford 1100 4x4.

100_1471Large.jpg


It had a few issues like a broken water pump and some leaking cylinders but everything worked and it looked to be in good overall condition so I brought it home. I replaced the water pump and tightened all the FEL mounting bolts and have been moving dirt and making jumps with it for a week now. :)

I'm pretty happy with it. It is a bit smaller than my friend's Ford 1220 but that is a good thing right now. As it is there are still some places I cannot fit in without cutting some trees. The only two things that I wish it had are a hydrostatic transmission and a diff lock. The HST on my friend's 1220 works great and my little Husky is hydrostatic so having a manual takes a little getting used to. Also, and maybe I'm just trying to do too much with it, I often get the turf tires spinning as I try and scoop up a bucket of dirt. We have a lot of clay content here so the dirt is heavy and sticky so I think I just need to learn to take smaller bites.

This winter I plan to fix the leaky cylinders, replace the cracked (but not yet leaking) hoses and maybe give it some paint and new decals. I also plan to properly mount some lights on it to help out after dark. ;)



Sean :cool:

You are living large....I am 60 and ride a KTM 525 EXC it keeps me young..and sometimes in pain...he he

Get a box blade with rippers to loosen up the dirt before you try to scoop it with the loader, you will be able to move a lot of dirt with little effort, and if you just want to move it around you don't need to take the time to pick it up just drag and stack with the box blade.

This is what a box blade can do with even a little tractor.


http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ar-blade-box-blade-project-2.html#post1757873
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice
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#57  
You are living large....I am 60 and ride a KTM 525 EXC it keeps me young..and sometimes in pain...he he

LOL. My 525EXC...

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...my wife's 525EXC...

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...and last year's track bike, an 01 520SX.:)

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I'm kind of a KTM nut. We also have a 250 EXC-G (4stroke), a Mini Adventure and a 65SX in the garage.
The youngest starts riding next year so I have to add another little KTM and I'm shopping for a leftover 505 XC-F for me for next year's MX season. :D

BTW, thanks for the link. I have been looking for either a box blade or a regular blade. Good to know what each is best used for. :)


Sean :cool:
 
   / New buyer, looking for advice #58  
[BTW, thanks for the link. I have been looking for either a box blade or a regular blade. Good to know what each is best used for. :)


Sean :cool:[/QUOTE]

A 4 foot box blade will help with your traction also and you can always strap more weight to it if you need to.

You can strap on a set of tire chains to increase your traction a great deal. The are not pretty but very effective. A friend of mine dug a 15 foot deep pond with just an old heavy 2 wheel drive 12 hp garden tractor, a dozer blade on the front, a concrete block on the back and a set of cobbled together tire chains on otherwise old slick worn out tires. He stacked the extra dirt behind his garage about 10 foot high after building the berm around the pond.

I notice that your wifes bike is a lot cleaner than yours...he he

This is a picture of me and my bike after the most miserable ride of my life. I am the guy in the brown coveralls, not very stylish but warmer than some of the guys on the ride.

It was around 30 degrees. We planned the ride a couple days earlier. On the way to the trail head we ran into the snow. By the time we got to the trail there was 6 to 8 inches of fresh wet snow in the woods. We all looked at each other and asked if anyone wanted to chicken out. Being guys we all said of course not! I did mention that I thought we brought the wrong machines, perhaps snowmobiles would be more appropiate.

I durffed onto a 3 foot deep water hole 2 miles into the ride and submarined my KTM. One of the Honda riders was impressed, my bike was laying on its side with the throttle end of the handle bars sticking out of the water and it never even stalled. He commented that his Honda won't run when horizontal.

I rode the next 48 miles soaking wet. The trees had so much snow on them they were bent over and the branches would bounce off the number plate, springing them up in the air and throwing the wet snow up and it would come down on our heads and go down our necks. In places we had to lay on the tank and keep our heads lower than the bars just to get through the bent over trees.
 

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