New CX2510!

[iptman]

I just started my 50 hour services. I changed the engine oil and filter and drained and refilled the axle with 80w90 gear oil. In the above video of the Orchard Hill guy he mentions the axle is filled with hydraulic oil from the factory and that it needs to be changed out with gear oil at 50 hours. I thought this strange but sure enough that's what was in there. While I was looking for the axle capacity (3 liters) I found this warning in the service manual.

Had I known this earlier I definitely would have swapped out the very thin hydraulic oil with gear oil as soon as I brought the tractor home.

I still need to change the hydraulic/HST oil and filters but I haven't found the right oil locally yet.

 

[iptman]

I got my 90s on. Perfect fit. This is full curl. Definitely want to specify 90s on probably all hydraulic attachments for the CX2510 loader. Them sumbitches were on there tight from the factory too.



Thanks again @EverythingAttachments! This grapple is a beast. Made short work of a couple trees that fell recently. My only complaint is it took me less than an hour to do the work.

 

[LilTractrThatCould]

These folks are in Spokane if you're still looking for Hydro oil. Mobil 424, $86 OTD for 5g. Cheapest I found. Call ahead and they pull it for ya.

 

[slckeys]

Tractor supply around here sells Mobil Delvac for $50 for 5 gallons. Says right on the label..."Also known as Mobolfluid 424"

 

[iptman]

I had Napa order the bucket of MobilFluid 424. Took a day to get it.

 

[iptman]

Is there a Mod on this sub who could move this thread to Kioti Owning/Operating?

 

[Username Taken]

I just started my 50 hour services. I changed the engine oil and filter and drained and refilled the axle with 80w90 gear oil. In the above video of the Orchard Hill guy he mentions the axle is filled with hydraulic oil from the factory and that it needs to be changed out with gear oil at 50 hours. I thought this strange but sure enough that's what was in there. While I was looking for the axle capacity (3 liters) I found this warning in the service manual.

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Had I known this earlier I definitely would have swapped out the very thin hydraulic oil with gear oil as soon as I brought the tractor home.

I still need to change the hydraulic/HST oil and filters but I haven't found the right oil locally yet.

I is confuseded. Again

Seems like it says that either can be used in the differential but not to use the gear oil in the transmission.

Makes sense to me. I don't see where it says to R&R the diff oil with 80/90 gear oil.

Mobil's site says it's okay in differentials unless they have a hypoid gear design. Again, I is confuseded. How can you have a differential without a hypoid gear? Unless it's straight-cut gears?? Which. I don't think is possible.

 

[iptman]

I is confuseded. Again

Seems like it says that either can be used in the differential but not to use the gear oil in the transmission.

Makes sense to me. I don't see where it says to R&R the diff oil with 80/90 gear oil.

Mobil's site says it's okay in differentials unless they have a hypoid gear design. Again, I is confuseded. How can you have a differential without a hypoid gear? Unless it's straight-cut gears?? Which. I don't think is possible.

The R&R suggestion came from the video @pirogue1 posted earlier. Rereading the above it certainly does say either oil is ok and in the service manual it states "SAE #90 grade or higher or TM oil" so I guess both work. I am much more comfortable with gear oil in a diff than hydraulic oil although it's not like a vehicle diff that's spinning significantly faster.

On your other point, the front diff gear and pinion gear (obviously they'd be the same) are actually straight cut. gears.

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[Username Taken]

The R&R suggestion came from the video @pirogue1 posted earlier. Rereading the above it certainly does say either oil is ok and in the service manual it states "SAE #90 grade or higher or TM oil" so I guess both work. I am much more comfortable with gear oil in a diff than hydraulic oil although it's not like a vehicle diff that's spinning significantly faster.

On your other point, the front diff gear and pinion gear (obviously they'd be the same) are actually straight cut. gears. View attachment 714348

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Thanks for the diagram. Senior moment on my part. I'm allowed

80 weight gear oil is about the same as 20 weight engine oil. 90 weight gear oil is about the same as 50 weight engine oil. So an 80/90 gear oil is roughly equivalent to 20/50 engine oil.

I can't find the viscosity numbers of the Delvac trans oil mostly because I'm not very motivated today. Can't even guess what it might be, but I'm not one that cares a whole lot about heavier viscosity grades of lubricants.

I believe that the perfect lubricant would have the same viscosity as air and have infinite lubricating qualities. Of course, it would have to be in a perfectly machined engine and the metal wouldn't be allowed to expand or contract. Pistons are sometimes 'barrel' shaped so they can expand into the bore of the block. Gears heat up, too.

IMO, most damage done to machinery is on start up. Once it gets older and beat to hades, then it breaks when it gets hot. But, IMO, the real damage was done while it was cold.

Whatever.

Wish me luck when I go to do mine. I might need it.

 

[iptman]

Got a de-thatcher from CMP Attachments. Ordered Wednesday, was on my door step Saturday. I was able to de-thatch my 2.5 acres and lay down fertilizer and seed all on Sunday. Well made unit and glad to support a small business like this.

 

[Radas]

In the market for one of these, potentially pulling the trigger in a few weeks. Do you still like your CX2510? Any issues? Cons? I am a big fan of the capabilities on paper considering the size. Has the 2 range made you wish you had a 3rd range or are you normally operating in low?

 

[9973720wb19]

I spy an FJ40 land cruiser hiding in the garage. Fellow FJ40 & lx470 owner.

saw that too! very cool

 

[Machinewars]

I’ve been really happy with mine so far. I’m in low 4x4 when doing any work and in high moving around without a load. The features for the price still can’t be beat and it’s a well built machine. The only downside so far is they don’t have much for custom add ons like JD or kubota such as mirrors and grab handles etc.

 

[iptman]

I am still really happy with mine. The only issue I've seen is the tac won't show over ~1000 RPM until it's warmed up a bit. I can definitely throttle it over that level and after a few minutes the tac reads properly. I haven't looked in to it or called the dealer on it though. It might be more trouble than it's worth trailering it back over for a superfluous issue like this. The backhoe is a little tricky to get the rear 2 pins to slide in. I have to use the bucket to take some weight off the front end to allow the pins to go in. No big deal once it was figured out this was the method to get it done. Also, if you intend to put any hooks on your bucket you have to get weld on and not bolt on. The top section of the bucket is double layered with some amount of space in between. I assume it's for strength but it eliminates bolt on hooks.

I use my @EverythingAttachments grapple far more than any other attachment. It lives on the loader and everything else gets put on for the task at hand. I have no problem with it being a 2 speed. Anything I'm doing that needs the power it's in low and I'm not traveling very far. If I'm heading to the other side of my property with no or little load I put it in hi. But I don't have many hills to deal with.

 

[pirogue1]

Your belt maybe slipping and not driving the alternator that runs the tach. Check the tension, I had alot of trouble with mines. I think the Napa replacement is 25-7400. That may not be the exact fit but worked. It maybe best to get the Kioti belt but I sincerely like to be hardheaded.

 

[Machinewars]

One other note. I noticed all the dummy lights while there do not light up. I called the dealer and the mechanic got on the line and told me this is by design and not all the models have wiring in place for the lights and they are considered upgrades. This is the one negative I would say

 

[jyoutz]

Just brought home my new tractor! CX2510 HST, R14s, loader w/ 3rd function, BH with 9 and 12 inch buckets, Titan 42" forks. $24,328 plus tax. Got about 5 hours on it already. Knocked out a lot of jobs I've been meaning to do for years. Got a lot more. The only thing I don't like is the non-retractable seatbelt but the dealer might have installed the wrong one b/c the manual says it should be retractable. I'll reach out Monday and see what's up with that. If it wasn't a mistake I'll just buy a retractable one and put it on myself.

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Very nice tractor. Now you need a canopy and chain hooks on the bucket.

 

[Radas]

Thank you guys, it was a tossup between the CX2510 and the LX2610 Kubota and I can't justify paying $6-7k more for an extra rear remote and one additional HST range.

I debated on getting the CK2610 because it is a much more capable machine, but sadly it's way too big for my property.

 

[pirogue1]

Thank you guys, it was a tossup between the CX2510 and the LX2610 Kubota and I can't justify paying $6-7k more for an extra rear remote and one additional HST range.

I debated on getting the CK2610 because it is a much more capable machine, but sadly it's way too big for my property.

Unless you seen them in person, my opinion is they are not that far apart in size. That 2610 maybe more handier in the future. I now wish I would have gotten the 2610.

 

[LilTractrThatCould]

My CX has been a pleasure to own as well if it helps.. just hit a yr with it but only 30hrs if run time. Had 7 pines taken out a few weeks ago, man I loved the EA grapple. Mover 90% of the logs without getting out of the seat!