New Dumby online, needing opinions!

   / New Dumby online, needing opinions!
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#11  
No, I haven't actually. I just thought that for the price on that DK, that it was a great deal, if it's not a GREAT deal, then maybe I will look at a brand new CK or LK, I'm just so green about tractors that I don't even know what most of the terminology is regarding them, and what's preferred, what's extra, etc! Sucks to be me right now, but hey, I am about to get a new tractor, so it's not all bad! Any information you all want to give me is MORE than appreciated!

Bobby
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #12  
The deal on the DK 35 looks fine, but it sure wouldn't hurt to get some prices on the LK3054 and CK 25 and 30 and take a test drive.
I highly recommend it!!
You may find a machine closer to your buget that will do everything you need..
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #13  
The Kioti is the only tractor on your list I would consider. The Kiotis are really nice machines. Kioti is here to stay. The Chinese dealers have a tendency to come and go.
 
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If you're looking in the 30 HP range other brands/models to look at are: Mahindra 2810, Farmtrac 300, New Holland TC30, John Deere 790, Kubota L2800 and the Montana 3040.

If you're looking for greater than 30HP, check out the Kubota L3400, NH TC33, JD 4310, Massey 1431 or 1433 or the Mahindra 3510.

That ought to be enough to boggle your mind! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

F47
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #15  
Ok maybe I am the contrarian here, but I would dismiss all the tractors on your list as too big for the LONG RUN. So you may want to stop reading my post at this point, but if I was you, with 5.5 acres, I would look at a SMALL FRAME tractor in and around 25 HP (I am NOT talking about a Sub-CUT, I am talking about a small frame CUT). You are looking at medium frame machines, the Kioti is the only one I would consider, but I still think it is too big for your long term use.

Consider that you will be using this to mow, dig, grade, etc. Also consider that much of your heavy work is going to be done in a year or two and then you will have a big tractor to mow the lawn with and that is less than ideal. A nice middle weight small frame tractor with enough power to run a 5' mower will suit you very well in the short term and in the long term.

Of the 5.5 acres, I am going to guess a couple acres is going to be bush hogged, and a couple is going to be finish mowed, there is not much land left after that. As this is your first tractor, you might seriously want to consider a Hydrostatic transmission, it will mow faster than a gear tractor. HST is also faster for front loader work than gear. But gear will do the job, if you go gear, then realize that not all gear machines are equal. Some are strict mechanical gears. Some are synronized gears. Some are shuttle. Some are syncro shuttle with e-reversers. The more advance the gear, the easier, faster and more efficient to use, but the costs go up a bit with each step.

As for the size/hp of the tractor. With 5.5 acres, I'm going to guess that you will be putting in some landscaping that you will have to mow around, the larger the tractor, the slower it is to mow around the trees, shrubs, house, deck, pool, etc. A larger tractor will mow an open field faster, but most of your real mowing time will come in when you are trying to avoid obsticals and a slightly smaller tractor can actually speed up your mowing.

Also consider that some of the tasks you outlined offer no real disadvantage when downsizing a bit. You can just as easily, quickly, effieciently dig a post hole with a fairly small JD 4115, Farmall DX26 or a New Holland TC26DA as you can with a 35hp tractor of any make or style.

Front end loader work is only marginally improved when going up in size. I own a New Holland TC24 and a Kubota B2910. The TC24 has roughly the same capacity as the larger, more powerful B2910. And because the B2910 has a 60" front bucket on it, it actually doesn't dig as well as the smaller bucket on the TC24. Also, the added visibilty of the TC's curved loader is vastly superior to the B2910's view so I find it faster to use in real terms. FEL loader view comparison photo

Again, I may be out of step with the other folks who replied, and I am not endorsing any particular machine, I'm just saying the size you are looking at might be too large for long term use. Smaller frame with lots of power might be a better choice. Just a thought.
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #16  
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OK Bob , Now you got a fight on your hands now ! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif I want you to bring your tractor up to Idaho and bush hog my whole property to see what transmission type tractor can do it faster !!! I will be fair and just set on the front porch and watch you work ,so you don't feel pressured in any way /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif . Hey ! I might even drink a beer and watch you work /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif . Anyway, after your "all done" and the place looks really good I just might concede your tractor is faster than mine !!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Big Al
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #17  
Al, I'll take you up on that if you pay for the gas! Getting some seat time is always a good thing.

And you will notice that I did qualify my answer. We are talking about a guy with 5.5 acres, so we are not looking at hogging great big fields "where the deer & the antelope roam" like might be found in your beloved Idaho . . . we are looking at short runs with lots of turning, mowing along a fence line, and most likely near the house, shrubs, and other things that should not be approached with a 12' batwing mower behind a giant size machine (OK, I'm exagerating a bit). That type of small field hogging and mowing is ideal for a tractor with HST.

Also, I can't even begin to understand why all 3 of the bids he got had only 5' mower decks with them. That seems really silly to me. A 35hp tractor could easily pull a 6 or 7 foot finish mower; but that again seems like overkill for his property size. I wonder if the dealers are simply quoting small implements to get the price down? And since we don't know the brand of implements, and since there are major quality differences between some of the brands, I wonder if some quotes might have lighter duty/lower priced options that he would seriously regret buying over time when they fall apart?

And I didn't mention it, in my earlier post, but I'd seriously look at a MMM deck for that property size too.
 
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So I guess what your saying is I can't trick you into coming to Idaho and mowing the whole Ranch for free /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Dang! I really thought that might work . You old Eastern tractor boy's are smarter than you look ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Ok then ,how about this ? Just come on up and will set on the front porch ,count all the new Elk calfs that are born on the place this Spring, drink beer and discuss tractor transmissions . Can you bring the beer ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Big Al
 
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Hey Al, I said I'd come up if you pay for the gas. I'll bring the beer!


Actually I am on the board of directors of a national association and one of the other board members is in Idaho, maybe I can arrange a business trip?
 
   / New Dumby online, needing opinions! #20  
The First Two are Chinese, Farm Pro is a rebadged Jimma, numerous companies put their own name on these tractors
and sell them as there own, the Kama is fairly new to the U.S. Market and don't have much history to evaluate, That 4 year warranty,cost you $1200,is on the chinese tractors? is it a third party warranty ????? If I was you I would spend time on the Chinese Forum on this site and read as many posts as you can before you buy. When I first started my tractor hunt last year, I did look at chinese but there were too many "Ifs". if the dealer will still be in business years later?, can I gets parts for this tractor years down the road?, will this tractor still be imported with the new EPA regulations for imports take effect? who pays transportation for warranty repairs? just too many ifs
Of the list you gave the KIOTI wins hands down. also go back to the Kioti dealer and price a smaller tractor, if that don't work start looking used, whatever you do Don't rush your decision. If you go beyond a Kioti, stop at a Mahindra dealer. Good Luck

Ron
 

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