New Kubota M6060 or New JD 5065E?

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

No need for an argument! Simply define the words and I WIN!!

Sorry but assembly isn't building, I don't care how many of what group of people work in a plant that is an other country what really counts needs to count and if you want to say built in USA then it needs to be built here or simply don't try and use it as a comparison point or selling point. I don't accept this from Ford/Chevy/Dodge or Even Harley when they say only some of the parts are imported and wont accept it from Kubota/Kioti/Massey or any other brand. Build it here honestly if you want to say its built here or don't say it!

Also just because some Feel Good legislation inspired by some overpaid lobbyist who happened to put a lot of money into an election so that they could be allowed to LIE to the uninformed does not change the True meaning of something being built here or there so please don't insult us by using that line of excuse!

Win? Win what? An understanding that companies mislead consumers to buy there products?

Ever bought free range and organic eggs? Did you know that the definition of free range can be categorized as the chicken has access to a small outdoor pin, that's it, that chicken doesn't have to go outside nor does there have to be grass or anything in this small exterior pin, as far as organic the hens can be fed "feather meal", its feathers from other hens shredded and used as a filler in there feed.

So when people pay $5 for a dozen of organic, free range, cage free eggs, the quality of the eggs are no better than the .85 white dozen.

You won't find anything mechanical in this country that was fully "Built" and assembled here, not anymore. Idk who's the winner in that scenario.

 

[rustyshakelford]

No need for an argument! Simply define the words and I WIN!!

Sorry but assembly isn't building, I don't care how many of what group of people work in a plant that is an other country what really counts needs to count and if you want to say built in USA then it needs to be built here or simply don't try and use it as a comparison point or selling point. I don't accept this from Ford/Chevy/Dodge or Even Harley when they say only some of the parts are imported and wont accept it from Kubota/Kioti/Massey or any other brand. Build it here honestly if you want to say its built here or don't say it!

Also just because some Feel Good legislation inspired by some overpaid lobbyist who happened to put a lot of money into an election so that they could be allowed to LIE to the uninformed does not change the True meaning of something being built here or there so please don't insult us by using that line of excuse!

How are you so convinced my tractor was built in India? I've shown you two pieces of evidence both saying it's manufactured here. Your going off tractordata. Here's the same Deere page showing a 5055e. You'll notice it says manufactured in India. You have a kioti so not even a dog in the hunt???

Brett

 

[orezok]

Straight from John Deere's website.

Brett

If you do a little research, you will find out that "Country of Manufacture" is NOT the same as "Country of Origin". It's a spin used to confuse you as to where it is actually made.

 

[rustyshakelford]

If you do a little research, you will find out that "Country of Manufacture" is NOT the same as "Country of Origin". It's a spin used to confuse you as to where it is actually made.

So I have a data tag that says assembled in USA. I have their website that says manufactured in Augusta ga and still it's wrong? If you look at then5045-5075 everything says India. I'm sure parts from around the world are on this thing but it was put together in Georgia, got on a truck and brought to the dealer

Brett

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Tractor data shows the 5100e from 2013-2014 were made in India, 2015 on it list Augusta Georgia

 

[stevepsd]

Buy a Deere and the profit stays in the USA. JD is a USA company.

Buy a Kubota and the profits end up going to Japan.

Doesn't matter where they are made/built/assembled.

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Here's a fun fact, JD has 70k employees and Mahindra has over 200k world wide. But JD did a crazy amount more business than Mahindra, I forget the exact numbers but it was almost double the revenue.

I looked into companies about 6 months ago, one of those ran out of things to compare lol, I can't remember what Kubota and CNH was

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Deere Reports Earnings of $285 Million for Fourth Quarter and $1.524 Billion for Year

Mahindra Group - Wikipedia

Kubota - Wikipedia

CNH Industrial - Wikipedia

Proves nothing just interesting data.

There all closer than I thought

 

[paulfun9]

Win? Win what? An understanding that companies mislead consumers to buy there products?

Ever bought free range and organic eggs? Did you know that the definition of free range can be categorized as the chicken has access to a small outdoor pin, that's it, that chicken doesn't have to go outside nor does there have to be grass or anything in this small exterior pin, as far as organic the hens can be fed "feather meal", its feathers from other hens shredded and used as a filler in there feed.



So when people pay $5 for a dozen of organic, free range, cage free eggs, the quality of the eggs are no better than the .85 white dozen.

You won't find anything mechanical in this country that was fully "Built" and assembled here, not anymore. Idk who's the winner in that scenario.

And your point is ?

My point is simple Assembly does not constitute MADE in the USA. If all the parts are assembled here but made someplace else even if one or two parts are actually Made here its still only assembled here with parts that are MADE from multiple countries.

As for the other misleading advertisement and practices I also feel that is not acceptable as well. Simple statement most of us know from childhood is that "2 wrongs don't make a right". So when did that change?

 

[rustyshakelford]

And your point is ?

My point is simple Assembly does not constitute MADE in the USA. If all the parts are assembled here but made someplace else even if one or two parts are actually Made here its still only assembled here with parts that are MADE from multiple countries.

As for the other misleading advertisement and practices I also feel that is not acceptable as well. Simple statement most of us know from childhood is that "2 wrongs don't make a right". So when did that change?

My 17 F450 was built in Kentucky. Has a sticker on the windshield to prove it. I can just about guarantee that the radio wasn't made here. So does that mean my truck isn't made in America? My tractor has fenders that have a sticker from Mexico if I remember correctly, now the whole this is made there? I would rather have something assembled in America than something that comes straight from overseas. I'm happy with that.

How many products out are truly made in America? Maybe some EA grapples but try to find some complex stuff built 100% with domestic products would be pretty tough

Brett