New (to me) YM240D

[clemsonfor]

Hoye i am sure most certainly has that part on a parts tractor. They have old parts units in the shop and yard i beleive. Just call and ask. The response i have gotton in the past is that used parts are roughly or half of the new part cost. So if they list it new you can see the used price. But since this is probably the most common old yanmar i am sure they have it.

I would test the ability of the new cylinders by putting the bucket on the ground and seeif curling them allows the tractor to move or lift its own weight if it does i would say there fine. But if your valve has internal bypassing or something they may not develope enough pressure to do that anyway.

If the 3pt lifts up a normal implement fine and your hoses are not colapsing internally nor leaking externally i would feel it a safe bet that the valve is fubared. They are simple just fluid under pressure a valve that sends fluid to a cylinder. IF you rebuilt the cylinder then thats fine.

 

[winston1]

Try putting a large hammer on one side of the remaining part on the shaft. Strike the opposite side with another large hammer. Many times that will have a loosening effect. Couldn't the lever be welded?

 

[woolyAcres]

Try putting a large hammer on one side of the remaining part on the shaft. Strike the opposite side with another large hammer. Many times that will have a loosening effect. Couldn't the lever be welded?

I'll have to try the two hammers. I'm worried about cracking something but if I put a sledge on one side and hit the other with a 2# hammer maybe that will free it. There a small space there where some levering can be done, but so far it won't budge.

You're probably right that I could weld that handle back onto the rotating housing if/when I get that housing off.

 

[woolyAcres]

I would test the ability of the new cylinders by putting the bucket on the ground and seeif curling them allows the tractor to move or lift its own weight if it does i would say there fine. But if your valve has internal bypassing or something they may not develope enough pressure to do that anyway.

If the 3pt lifts up a normal implement fine and your hoses are not colapsing internally nor leaking externally i would feel it a safe bet that the valve is fubared. They are simple just fluid under pressure a valve that sends fluid to a cylinder. IF you rebuilt the cylinder then thats fine.

The 3pt still lifts the box blade no problem so hopefully any trouble I may have caused is confined to the front. The curl function does have some ability to curl the tip of the bucket downward, but curling the bucket lip back up (as if to keep material from spilling out of the bucket) is SEVERELY limited. It seems to have no strength and it is excruciatingly slow. I don't know if movies are embeddable here but maybe tomorrow I can try to post a video before I head out of town (again!).

It might take me some time but I think for about $400 I could get the new loader control valve, rebuild the rear cylinders, and replace some of the bad hoses and this would be ready to go. I'll still have that enormous bucket to deal with but at least it would lift and curl. I'm off to search the sofa for cash...

 

[California]

That sounds like it might be debris in the valve or the lines preventing fluid from reaching the loader's cylinders. So blowing out the valve and lines with air might, slight chance, be sufficient as the first attempted repair before replacing the loader valve.

This is based on finding chunks of hose lining at the loader valve entry fittings, when I took the hoses off my old loader valve. (However for me clearing the debris didn't seem to make any difference in operation).

 

[woolyAcres]

That sounds like it might be debris in the valve or the lines preventing fluid from reaching the loader's cylinders. So blowing out the valve and lines with air might, slight chance, be sufficient as the first attempted repair before replacing the loader valve.

This is based on finding chunks of hose lining at the loader valve entry fittings, when I took the hoses off my old loader valve. (However for me clearing the debris didn't seem to make any difference in operation).

Blowing the lines out is a good idea and worth a try. When that failed for you did replacing the loader control make a difference?

BTW, @California, have you sold your YM186D yet?

 

[California]

Blowing the lines out is a good idea and worth a try. When that failed for you did replacing the loader control make a difference?

BTW, @California, have you sold your YM186D yet?

The old loader control still worked but felt worn out - it sweated fluid at the control levers and dribbled when lifting heavy weight. One thing I was trying to improve didn't make much difference - bucket Curl isn't strong enough to tip a heavy loaded pallet back toward the tractor, I have to set the pallet on the ground and curl it back, then raise it. Apparently the loader geometry didn't anticipate the leverage of add-on forks sticking out 4 ft in front of the bucket. Anyhow with the new control, operating the loader feels crisp, precise.

Nobody will come look at the YM186D! I just discarded a dozen different conversations with people who asked dumb questions then never responded to my reply for 10 days: if it had 4 wheel drive, if it had a loader, if I would deliver it far away, two who offered $1000 less before they would come see it. One offer to swap vinyl siding, one who who offered 'new and valuable', undefined. I recently sent followups to several others who seemed to have genuine interest, got reasonable replies from most of them but 'bought something else', 'husband has his heart set on a Deere' 'decided I need a loader' etc.

If anyone would come demo it, I think it would sell easily.

I'm running a second ad for a cement mixer and got a sad reply. A guy who was going to come buy it this weekend sent me a note he wouldn't need it any more, he lost everything in the Middletown fire.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yea they should move easier than that. if your rods in the Cylinders dont look bent there is fluid restriction or bypassing like and and California have eluded to here in the past. i dont think videos work here. Every think i have seen that i remember was hosted on youtube and then the link put here and that embeded the video in the post. I put all my stuff on youtube anyway as its like a source to store the content. since google probably has like 5x backup servers and triplicate and they get some benefit from footage stored there for adds and hits i doubt they will loose much if any of it...least thats my theory and thinking.

 

[clemsonfor]

The old loader control still worked but felt worn out - it sweated fluid at the control levers and dribbled when lifting heavy weight. One thing I was trying to improve didn't make much difference - bucket Curl isn't strong enough to tip a heavy loaded pallet back toward the tractor, I have to set the pallet on the ground and curl it back, then raise it. Apparently the loader geometry didn't anticipate the leverage of add-on forks sticking out 4 ft in front of the bucket. Anyhow with the new control, operating the loader feels crisp, precise.

Nobody will come look at the YM186D! I just discarded a dozen different conversations with people who asked dumb questions then never responded to my reply for 10 days: if it had 4 wheel drive, if it had a loader, if I would deliver it far away, two who offered $1000 less before they would come see it. One offer to swap vinyl siding, one who who offered 'new and valuable', undefined. I recently sent followups to several others who seemed to have genuine interest, got reasonable replies from most of them but 'bought something else', 'husband has his heart set on a Deere' 'decided I need a loader' etc.

If anyone would come demo it, I think it would sell easily.

I'm running a second ad for a cement mixer and got a sad reply. A guy who was going to come buy it this weekend sent me a note he wouldn't need it any more, he lost everything in the Middletown fire.

thats terrible!! the last part. The rest of it seems about on par for what you get on CL. I was trying to sell a small older boat motor and trailer. (all perfectly servicable. we could of gone fishing in it the day the person looked at it. No needing carb rebuilds or any parts etc) I wanted $700. I was getting offers of trades for bb guns, rc cars, dvds, playstations. Just junk???? Only one real hit from a couple of college kids that looked at it to buy and wanted to get in the college bass fishing series that popular here in the south. We agreed on $650, ones dad came to get it and played the i only have $600 deal. He drove an hour and i told him the deal was $650, i will just take it home and let you drive the hour home without it and explain that to your son, i dont care. Needless to say i got my $50 and i think there happy?

 

[Todd8665]

You guys are making me feel bad...Both because I fell your pain, and that I have trailer and crappy snow blower that I am about to post to craigslist