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[2manyrocks]

Small, independent community banks keep getting started and having success because of the way big banks treat their customers.

 

[jyoutz]

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Small, independent community banks keep getting started and having success because of the way big banks treat their customers.

prefer my credit union to any bank. I do all my business with them.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

It is easy to say it is or was, all about science when the vast majority of people lack the scientific background to understand what is being said or distort the facts to imply falsities.

This goes on in many arenas in life. The real estate industry for example is full of these kind of shenanigans.

 

[2manyrocks]

Add to this the sorry state of journalism today in general where they seem more interested in advocating for some particular position or the other instead of simply reporting facts. Google the news for a particular event and so many times each story is just a repeat of the same story over and over lacking depth.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I feel like theres a lot of kids going to college who really shouldn’t be there. They went because their parents made them, or they felt social pressure that they had to go or they were a ”loser”.

This is very true. With the proliferation and easy access to information now and days college doesn't make sense anymore. Unless they're going to be a doctor, engineer or scientist it's a bad investment. I would even argue that going for a law degree can be obtained on one's own without attending a university.

 

[Hay Dude]

This is very true. With the proliferation and easy access to information now and days college doesn't make sense anymore. Unless they're going to be a doctor, engineer or scientist it's a bad investment. I would even argue that going for a law degree can be obtained on one's own without attending a university.

Problem with that is, most people won’t hire you without a legit degree. We’ve been conditioned to believe that degrees, especially ivy league degrees, are a guarantee of intelligence.

 

[2manyrocks]

It's not just that, but certain degrees are required before you can even take the bar exam. Abraham Lincoln wouldn't be admitted to practice law today.

 

[Yander]

Unfortunately for a lot of smart people college is still the ticket to the dance for a lot of companies.

But I realized from going to college is that you don't have to be so smart just have to be diligent and work hard if you want to graduate with honors; which I did.

I was a complete goof off in high school and barely graduated.

I could not even have gotten in to the state school with my grades and with my SAT score.

I went to a private technical college which was not cheap got a CIS degree. You really don't need a CIS degree now you just need to know programming. But if you want to work where I do you have to have a degree.

College is still a good investment depending on what you're going for.

I went back about 5 years later and got a masters which helped a lot because it was in my chosen field.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Problem with that is, most people won’t hire you without a legit degree. We’ve been conditioned to believe that degrees, especially ivy league degrees, are a guarantee of intelligence.

That is changing.

Former IBM CEO says employers should stop hiring based on college degrees and focus on this instead

Employer investment in workforce reskilling is more important than ever, said former IBM CEO Ginni Rometty at Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit. Here are three things employers should prioritize now.

www.cnbc.com

LinkedIn's CEO says skills are replacing a college degree in this job market | Fortune

It's not who you know, but what you know.

fortune.com

 

[airbiscuit]

Thomas Friedman said

"In the 60s - you had to make a plan to fail" (there were plenty of unskilled jobs that paid a living wage)
"In the 21st century, you have to make a plan to succeed - (technology has disrupted the career landscape)"

Too many good ol boys eschew getting 21st education and skills, and are waiting for a high paying job to be handed to them. It could be a long wait.

I would never recommend that a parent tell their children - Whatever you do, don't pursue any education or training after High School. Others may differ.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I would never recommend that a parent tell their children - Whatever you do, don't pursue any education or training after High School. Others may differ.

Just for the record, I was not advocating for that. My opinion and long held belief is they can earn it on their own with a computer and an internet connection.

 

[airbiscuit]

That wasn't directed at you.

 

[Yander]

That is changing.

Former IBM CEO says employers should stop hiring based on college degrees and focus on this instead

Employer investment in workforce reskilling is more important than ever, said former IBM CEO Ginni Rometty at Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit. Here are three things employers should prioritize now.

www.cnbc.com

LinkedIn's CEO says skills are replacing a college degree in this job market | Fortune

It's not who you know, but what you know.

fortune.com

Yes and I've worked with some of those IBM employees. Trust me they're still going off of their name from a couple decades ago.

IBM in a lot of cases is like the Tata consulting. Indian based company that provides warm bodies and bills you a lot for them. The skills are not there.

I don't think college separates the smart from the dumb. I think it separates the people who are willing to go the extra mile.

Now I'm all for a difficult technical test that a person would have to take in order to get into a company like IBM in lieu of a college degree.

 

[Hay Dude]

That is changing.

Former IBM CEO says employers should stop hiring based on college degrees and focus on this instead

Employer investment in workforce reskilling is more important than ever, said former IBM CEO Ginni Rometty at Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit. Here are three things employers should prioritize now.

www.cnbc.com

LinkedIn's CEO says skills are replacing a college degree in this job market | Fortune

It's not who you know, but what you know.

fortune.com

Thankfully, but it’s still the overwhelming perception of most people

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I don't think college separates the smart from the dumb. I think it separates the people who are willing to go the extra mile.

There are other ways to test for and determine this.

 

[Yander]

There are other ways to test for and determine this.

There certainly are but I think it depends on the career field. In some cases, you either know it or you don't. As the job market gets more and more difficult to fill the technical roles you will either see that work offshored (We offshore a large percentage of our technical roles) or companies hiring entry level non degree students and putting them through a boot camp or internship.

I would much rather see them bring in kids from the US and put them through internships than to have it off-shored. That off-shore solution doesn't help our economy or young workers

Technology would be the perfect field to do this in.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

There certainly are but I think it depends on the career field. In some cases, you either know it or you don't. As the job market gets more and more difficult to fill the technical roles you will either see that work offshored (We offshore a large percentage of our technical roles) or companies hiring entry level non degree students and putting them through a boot camp or internship.

I would much rather see them bring in kids from the US and put them through internships than to have it off-shored. That off-shore solution doesn't help our economy or young workers

Technology would be the perfect field to do this in.

I am an estate fiduciary and most of the people I am hiring are degreed adults with many years of experience. I can tell you first hand that I have interviewed many people over the years that had decades of experience in their field and didn't know anything. There are MANY in the work force that have done nothing with themselves. They coasted on the coat tails of their degree, experience, resume and the reputation of the company they work for hoping that the next boss they interview with will not be prudent enough to ask the right questions.

Unfortunately, what I have been seeing is many of these people get very skilled at B.Sing their way into jobs instead of developing the necessary skills to do the job. This makes the job of people like myself that much more difficult and time consuming because a lot of the interview is conducted in a way to screen for deception and fraud.

 

[Yander]

Yes, I'm well aware of those type and have encountered them, my wife has also. I have a saying, so you say you've been doing ______________ for 20 years? My question is, have you been doing it well for 20 years?

My wife and I both have encountered and worked with the BSer 20+ year "experienced" incompetent wind bag. It has nothing to do with a degree, she works with all women with no degree in the medical billing field. I work with all people with degrees and see the same.

 

[rScotty]

Just for the record, I was not advocating for that. My opinion and long held belief is they can earn it on their own with a computer and an internet connection.

I would agree with that for most things. But for some professions, it would be the unusual person who was able to force himself to learn as much and in the depth required.

 

[Williy]

It all comes back to me now said the blind
man as he was peeing into; the wind

willy