Newbie from Oz

[Thomas]

:welcome: to TBN Ken...enjoy.

 

[Tractorable]

How much land do you have?

I'm not familiar with a Challenge loader, but I'd be skeptical of some of the claims about its performance as compared to the Kubota loader. Manufacturers like Kubota match the performance of their loaders to the size and weight of the tractor. Installing an aftermarket loader with much greater specs could quickly lead to an unsafe situation. The Kubota MX series is a 4000 pound machine with a 2500 pound lift capacity on the loader. Lifting more than that could get you into trouble. I'd also be concerned about the resale of the tractor with an aftermarket loader.

Choose the implements you need first and then choose a tractor capable enough to power those implements.

 

[kenlip]

How much land do you have?

100 acres. All bush (mainly eucalypts). About 2 acres for a dwelling. About 5 kilometres of roads

I'm not familiar with a Challenge loader, but I'd be skeptical of some of the claims about its performance as compared to the Kubota loader. Manufacturers like Kubota match the performance of their loaders to the size and weight of the tractor. Installing an aftermarket loader with much greater specs could quickly lead to an unsafe situation. The Kubota MX series is a 4000 pound machine with a 2500 pound lift capacity on the loader. Lifting more than that could get you into trouble. I'd also be concerned about the resale of the tractor with an aftermarket loader.

Excellent advice. I have decided to get the Kubota loader.

Choose the implements you need first and then choose a tractor capable enough to power those implements.

That, together with the steepness of some of the roads, is how I arrived at the decision to get the MX5100.

 

[Wagtail]

Good stuff on your decision, you'll be more than happy with it: TractorData.com Kubota MX51 tractor information I saw on TV this evening that Kubota is having a sales promotion and it specifically included the MX5100.

On top of the implements that you're considering (bundling as much as you can into the purchase price to save on GST), have them load the tyres for extra weight.

I also note that there's a backhoe option. If you can afford it, I'd recommend it as I still reckon that you've got a lot of digging 'fun' in your future... I'm thinking stumps and, especially, large rocks.

 

[kenlip]

I saw on TV this evening that Kubota is having a sales promotion and it specifically included the MX5100.

The only promotion I can find is their offer of 0.9% finance for 40 months. On BX and L series it is 0%.

(bundling as much as you can into the purchase price to save on GST),

I don't quite follow this. How can I save on GST?

Thanks
Ken

 

[Wagtail]

The only promotion I can find is their offer of 0.9% finance for 40 months. On BX and L series it is 0%.



I don't quite follow this. How can I save on GST?

Thanks
Ken

The 10% GST is calculated on the total invoice, not the individual items. So the more items/implements that you can put onto that invoice, the less GST you'll be paying.

 

[kenlip]

The 10% GST is calculated on the total invoice, not the individual items. So the more items/implements that you can put onto that invoice, the less GST you'll be paying.

Huh?

Let's look at 3 items, one for $1,000, one for $500, and one for $100

Calculating GST on the individual items:
10% of 1,000 = 100
10% of 500 = 50
10% of 100 = 10
Total GST = 100+50+10 = 160

Calculating the GST on the total invoice:
Total invoice = 1,000+500+100 = 1,600
10% of 1,600 = 160

 

[Wagtail]

Fine. Whatever.

Enjoy your new tractor and implements.

 

[Wagtail]

Fine. Whatever.

Enjoy your new tractor and implements.

Sorry. That came off as being snarky.

What I originally meant was that, by bundling as many implements together in your initial purchase you'll most likely get a discount on those implements plus the 'set up' costs. (ie: you want a 4in1 bucket... that entails setting up a hydraulic remote on your FEL, which could reduce labour costs as it may be absorbed in the 'wet up' {preparing your tractor for delivery}

Then there's the shipping fees for the implements themselves. Not all of the implements you're considering will be made by Kubota. All of these, done at one time will reduce the final invoice and, as such, the GST you'll need to pay.

 

[kenlip]

Sorry. That came off as being snarky.

No offence taken

What I originally meant was that, by bundling as many implements together in your initial purchase you'll most likely get a discount on those implements plus the 'set up' costs. (ie: you want a 4in1 bucket... that entails setting up a hydraulic remote on your FEL, which could reduce labour costs as it may be absorbed in the 'wet up' {preparing your tractor for delivery}

Then there's the shipping fees for the implements themselves. Not all of the implements you're considering will be made by Kubota. All of these, done at one time will reduce the final invoice and, as such, the GST you'll need to pay.

Absolutely. Buying a big order should help to get a discount.

Interestingly, I have done a bit of research on some of the implements and am a bit concerned about the dealer I am hoping to buy from. His prices for attachments seems to be very high. For example, pallet forks for which he quoted $1,700 are available form other suppliers for $1089. Of course, there will be freight charges. But, I can't imagine freight for a set of forks could be $600 (I could be wrong - I'll need to check). For the supplier of the tractor, the freight is virtually zero. If he puts a box of forks on the same truck as the tractor, it is hardly going to be much of an additional cost.

I'll need to check freight charges from other companies and also give the dealer a chance to explain/justify his charges.