Nice used cutting torch.

[deereman75]

I don't think I did too bad. It's a purox w201 torch handle, with cutting attachment, 6 welding tips, and 9 cutting tips.
I also got a set of purox regulators, and a spare liquid air acetylene regulator. Also included were 4 airco tips, and 3 NOS Harris calorific cutting tips.

The welding tips range from #2 to #30, and the cutting tips are from #2 to #9 (purox numbers are very different from others....)
I am going to have the regulators rebuilt, seeing as the oxygen regulator has a spider stuck in the inlet, and they haven't been used in years.
Finally, does anyone know where I can get replacement Orings for purox welding tips? Some of them are starting to fall apart.
Ok, here are some pictures.

 

[deereman75]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I got the whole lot for $175!
Sure beats spending that on a chinese victor clone..... LOL

 

[Scooby074]

I use that same AL regulator. Its a solid unit.

One thing though, parts are getting scarce. My Oxygen reg blew up and AL couldnt get a rebuild kit, and even if they could it would have ended up costing very close to what a new low end AL reg would have cost (around $100 IIRC), plus it would only have 30 days warranty, so I just bought a new one that came with a 1yr? warranty for the same cost.

Good score for $175 though.

 

[deereman75]

I think that air liquide reg is fine, it's the two purox units I am thinking of having rebuilt.
I am thinking of running the two purox regulators, and possibly using the AL regulator for a prestolite/turbo torch.

I am sure I can get parts for the purox regulator.

Next I will be trying to find a prestolite handle, and an mc tank. I hate those bernzomatic plumbing torches.......

 

[cowski]

i have that exact purox torch and regulator set.my gas regulator needs building too.

 

[yomax4]

Those R205 and R206 Regs are obsolete..Sorry. Very good regs in thier day though. Not sure you will be able to have them re-built. o-rings for the purox tips are 14K05 and 14K06 look them up on e-bay..If you can rebuild the regs, they would cost more than new ones. cutting tips are 16K10 for a medium sized cutting tip for acetylene. 16K16 I believe for propane. ( if my memory is still there from my distributor days) good luck.

 

[deereman75]

I saw that regulator and torch exchange will do a rebuild for them for $54, or sell the kit for $26.
It seems the kits are still available.
I have to say that I really prefer older equipment, and I really love the look of the old purox regulators. I saw that even chinese regulators are about $75 here, so I feel these are worth rebuilding.
I know where I can get them done if air liquide can't.

 

[yomax4]

If you can get the kits, They are easy to re-build..I too would rather have the 205 and 206 instead of the chinese ones..

 

[deereman75]

I think I will go that way. I have almost finished rebuilding my old Harris straight torch, these could be my next project.

Only issue is that they won't ship to Canada. I might know a person or two who could have it shipped to them, then ship it to me.
Time to send some PMs.

 

[deereman75]

I'm going to call up efco torch and regulator rebuilding this morning. If anyone in Canada can do it, they can.
I have a ton of tips to clean this morning, but I am hoping to try out the new purox torch with the air liquide regulators this afternoon.
Any tips on removing a broken off tip cleaner from a cutting tip? Or cleaning out totally plugged holes? About half the tips are ready to use, the rest are either plugged with spatter, and one has a tip cleaner stuck in it.
I wonder how a machinists tool cabinet would work for storing torches and tips? I have a nice 7 drawer Kennedy sitting on a shelf in my shop, with nothing in it....

 

[Shield Arc]

I always like to take a flat mil file to the cutting tip first. Get a real nice flat face to the tip then use the tip cleaners to work on the holes. I like to have the tip in the torch with just a little oxygen blowing. This helps blow the crap back out of the tip. My dad use tell the story of him watching a pipe weldor doing this, but he turned on the acetylene instead of the oxygen:confused3:! Guy had a full beard, when he lit the torch, his beard went up in flames.

If that tip clearer is broke off flush with the face of the tip. Maybe you can push it on in, then try to get it out from the torch end of the tip. Good luck with that!

 

[deereman75]

Well, I will try that.
Only issue is I can't find my darn tip cleaner.....
I might see about buying a few tips cleaners..... Those things always go missing.

One of the tips is about 3/8of an inch shorter than the others, and the holes seem way too big for its size. I am guessing someone filed way too much off?

I will have to try that oxygen trick! The mill file sounds a lot better than that useless flat file thing in the tip cleaners...

 

[deereman75]

Well, I just got off the phone with efco. They said they can rebuild both of my purox regulators. They said the price will depend on what's wrong, but the top end would be $65 a piece, with a 6 month warranty on the whole unit. It will likely be less than that.
I am planning on sending them out this weekend.
Let's see how they do. They claim to be one of the best in the industry.

If they do well, I might have some more for them in the future.

 

[yomax4]

You can buy a set of tip drills in a kit for about $10 or some LWS have the individual bits. These are very cool little drill bits..Some smaller than a human hair. The tube they come in is also the chuck. I used to sell them so I have a dozen sets..I use them for a lot of things other than tip cleaning. They wont remove a broken tip cleaner though..often you can heat the tip up and push the broken tip cleaner out the front from the back. The copper expands pretty good to let the piece out.

 

[deereman75]

I saw atl welding has them for $3.95. I will throw one in the order with the adapter and tip for my Harris straight torch.
Looks almost like a jewelery tool?
Question here, should I get a propane heating tip for the adapter, or just use a big cutting tip?
I am trying to cut down my spending as much as possible.... I am trying to get the last $600-$750 I need for a truck.....

 

[Shield Arc]

Not quite sure I understand your question. For most of my preheating needs I use a propane weed burner. Only time I use a rosebud for heat shrinking is to straighten beams. For tube, pipe, angle iron, C-channel, plate, etc, etc, I use a large cutting tip. Every once in a great while I'll use a small welding tip. Unless I'm mistaken here, I don't see you having to straighten any beams for awhile.

 

[yomax4]

For smaller concentrated heating, bending and straightening, I too just use a regular cutting tip to heat. You can also get the rosebud tube with an adaptor to install a cutting tip on the end. This gets wicked hot in a very small area. The rest of the rosebuds heat a large sized area and gobble fuel.I have a few weed burners but have never tried one for heating anything but cast iron. I'll give it a try..I bent the wedge on my log splitter and needed a 100,000 btu propane bud to get the area hot enough to bend it back. Then I split some oak and promptly broke it off...Back to the shop, lol.

 

[deereman75]

I guess I was asking if a rosebud is really needed for things such as general bending and forming work. I can't see my self working with anything heavier than 1/2" round bar. I just haven't done enough bending work to know what is really needed. Virtually all my bending has been done with a coal blacksmith forge.
I figured that for that sort of work, a good sized cutting tip would be fine. The only metal I have really bent with a torch is 1/4" round bar...... LOL

I guess I should just try it out, and see what works. I have never even seen a rosebud lit, so I am not really sure when you actually need one?

 

[Shield Arc]

All depends on the volume, or the area mass you want to heat. I've straightened beams using two #12 rosebuds. But how many guys here do that for a living much less at home?

 

[deereman75]

I guess I will just use cutting tips until I have to bend something too big for it. That will be a good reason to get a rosebud.
I have up to #9 purox cutting tips. Not sure if a 75cf acetylene tank will be big enough for them? I saw that I can get a #11 propane purox tip on ebay for $12 to my door. I would be tempted to try that before spending the $100+ on a purox rosebud....... LOL