Northern Tool Pto Gen

[liberty2701]

Any experience with the !3KW Pto Gen. I think I can get one for a good deal? Is the power clean and is it built well? Thanks

 

[liberty2701]

I just got some more info on the unit. It is 4 years old never used. No carrier or shaft. I can get it for$550. Is this a good deal?

 

[newbury]

Looks like a new 13 KW surge NT brand generator is about $2400 with a two year warranty.

Actually $1500 + shipping n tax.
NorthStar PTO Generator 13,000 Watt, 24 HP Required | PTO Generators | Northern Tool + Equipment
I had checked it out because someone local on CL was selling one for $1200.

 

[schmism]

Initally i thought, what could be wrong with it?

then i thought, well if someone hooked it up to a tractor with a multi-speed PTO and used a 800 rpm setting they could have over speed it and fryed something...

Id take the tractor over to it and hook it up and see if it runs right. then id drop that $500 cash in his had...:thumbsup:

 

[RoyJackson]

Soundguy, our resident Ford expert from Florida, has an NT generator. Seems he's happy with it.
a PM to Soundguy might glean more information...

 

[MotorSeven]

Id take the tractor over to it and hook it up and see if it runs right. then id drop that $500 cash in his had...:thumbsup:

I second this. Let it run for a while(30min) and see if things get too hot or gear oil starts running out. I bought a 25KW PTO generator from a friends dad who had never run it. Everything worked great until I saw the gear oil. I shut it down and investigated....false alarm as it had just been overfilled.

 

[EE_Bota]

I just got some more info on the unit. It is 4 years old never used. No carrier or shaft. I can get it for$550. Is this a good deal?

I have it's little brother, the 7500. I have never used it, since I have never lost power. I originally bought it AFTER a serious ice storm where I was without power for 10 days.

Now, I just rotate the shaft by hand sometimes to keep the bearings from going bad. I built a special pallet for it to bolt onto, and that pallet goes on my carryall. I bought the shaft from Agri-supply if I recall correctly.

As to post #2...I wouldn't be afraid of that used one if it looked brand new. With no shaft and no mount, I assume no use either. I'd check around on Craig's list, etc for units I could actually see run, and assign a value to a shaft and a mount...they aren't free. Could be a different unit would be better for you. If you paid $400 more for one with shaft, mounting, and proof it works, you would be better off. But my carry all is not tied to the thing. I still get to use the carryall for other things. The unit sits on its pallet, and the pallet is on a cheap dolly in the dry of my garage, so my mounting could be considered free but for the work of building the pallet.

I always looked for feedback on the Harbor Freight one that came (at that time) with the shaft, the 3pt mount, all for around $1000. But it is probably junk in some ways. But I rarely even need a generator. Sometimes I buy junk if the use is once or rare. But it would be a bugger to get out in the ice and snow to hook up a genny only to have it fail.

 

[Soundguy]

i have their 13kw model.. my stepfather has the 24kw model.

both work fine.. have powered many things during florida hurricanes.

power is as steady as the governor of the machine powering it.

as far as clean.. it's pure sine wave.. just like the power company makes.. same concept of power generation.. it's a brushless design too...

soundguy

 

[liberty2701]

What a is a good place for a pto shaft? I see price variations from $100 to $300. Any length reccommendations?

 

[RoyJackson]

What a is a good place for a pto shaft? I see price variations from $100 to $300. Any length reccommendations?

Before buying a PTO drive shaft, I strongly suggest you measure the actual distance between your tractor's PTO and the implement's input stub shaft...at minimum distance (raise the implement...the shortest distance should be when the implement's input shaft and the tractor's output shaft are level with one another. That way, you'll know the minimum length you require...

 

[schmism]

Before buying a PTO drive shaft, I strongly suggest you measure the actual distance between your tractor's PTO and the implement's input stub shaft...at minimum distance (raise the implement...the shortest distance should be when the implement's input shaft and the tractor's output shaft are level with one another. That way, you'll know the minimum length you require...

your assuming the owner doesnt hard mount the genny to some location and simply back the tractor up to it. At which point you can position the tractor at any point to make use of an existing PTO shaft you have from say a brush hog.

 

[RoyJackson]

your assuming the owner doesnt hard mount the genny to some location and simply back the tractor up to it. At which point you can position the tractor at any point to make use of an existing PTO shaft you have from say a brush hog.

That's not necessarily true. Think about it.
Implements are quite different when it comes to gearbox position.
Now, it the implement (genny, in this case), is not to be rigged to the 3PH, I can see the use of another implement's PTO drive shaft.
However, I doubt this would be the case with most generator owners.

 

[Soundguy]

What a is a good place for a pto shaft? I see price variations from $100 to $300. Any length reccommendations?

i got mine from tsc.. think I paid 100$.. length as needed to hookup to tractor. I have my ptogen mounted on a pallate, which is then mounted to a 3pt carryall.. i sized my pto shaft so that I can hookup the implement to the 3pt and attach pto shaft. that way you don't have to worry about permanently mounting that pto gen if you don't want to ( but you can't run it without it being mounted to SOMething.. with it on the 3pt carryall.. I can laod on a trailer and go to the farm.. or tie strap my welder to it and do mobile welding on the gates on the farm.. etc. drive up to house to power well.. etc... nice having a mobile power source..

 

[SPYDERLK]

your assuming the owner doesnt hard mount the genny to some location and simply back the tractor up to it. At which point you can position the tractor at any point to make use of an existing PTO shaft you have from say a brush hog.

That's not necessarily true. Think about it.
Implements are quite different when it comes to gearbox position.
Now, it the implement (genny, in this case), is not to be rigged to the 3PH, I can see the use of another implement's PTO drive shaft.
However, I doubt this would be the case with most generator owners.

...:confused2:

 

[Soundguy]

your assuming the owner doesnt hard mount the genny to some location and simply back the tractor up to it. At which point you can position the tractor at any point to make use of an existing PTO shaft you have from say a brush hog.

the owner might fid it hard to strip the pto shaft off his mower to use on that northstar ptogenset.. as it has a splined imput shaft same as the tractor stub.. IE.. 1 3/8" 6 spline.

most mower gearboxes are round input shafts. even some of the add on torque limiters are round, just because they are anticipating being added to a mower with a round input shaft. a few machine with torque limiters haowever, I have seen with splined input shafts. those pto shafts might be swapable..

best for the owner to see what he has before he thinks about swapping or buying..


soundguy

 

[SPYDERLK]

your assuming the owner doesnt hard mount the genny to some location and simply back the tractor up to it. At which point you can position the tractor at any point to make use of an existing PTO shaft you have from say a brush hog.

That's not necessarily true. Think about it.
Implements are quite different when it comes to gearbox position.
Now, it the implement (genny, in this case), is not to be rigged to the 3PH, I can see the use of another implement's PTO drive shaft.
However, I doubt this would be the case with most generator owners.

...:confused2:

the owner might fid it hard to strip the pto shaft off his mower to use on that northstar ptogenset.. as it has a splined imput shaft same as the tractor stub.. IE.. 1 3/8" 6 spline.

most mower gearboxes are round input shafts. even some of the add on torque limiters are round, just because they are anticipating being added to a mower with a round input shaft. a few machine with torque limiters haowever, I have seen with splined input shafts. those pto shafts might be swapable..

best for the owner to see what he has before he thinks about swapping or buying..


soundguy

Yes, implement end fit is the point as stated. Broadcast seeders, manure spreaders, chippers, etc come with splined ends fairly uniformly. I use my broadcast spreader shaft on a 3pt carrier for that gen. Its light duty ... had to put needle cups into the u-joints. I also start the gen gently both to spare its 1 to 7 gearbox and avoid possibly twisting the light duty shaft.
larry

 

[Soundguy]

i just ponied up the extra 100$ back at the time i got the genny and bought a hd pto shaft.. no swapping needed.. i just leave it on. that way in a hurricane or other situation.. i don't have to worry about walking out to the edge of the fence to strip off a pto shaft and carry the 50# thing back up tot he barn to attach tot he genset..

if someone had one ont he shelf they commonly swapped between implements already.. then that's different.. might save a dead president...

soundguy

 

[EE_Bota]

What a is a good place for a pto shaft? I see price variations from $100 to $300. Any length reccommendations?

Others here know more, but sometimes on a PTO generator, a lighter shaft can be used than for say brush cutter duty. Some sellers informally rate them by task.

I bought mine here, but the site is clunky

Tillage, Tillage Tools, Cultivation, Cultivation Tools | Agri Supply

Click on PTO accessories, and then look at the narrow your search box, and you can find "PTO assemblies". As to length, that depends on your actual setup. I knew my setup first, measured for the shaft, but I believe I bought too long (had too) and then cut it down to size.

 

[EE_Bota]

the owner might fid it hard to strip the pto shaft off his mower to use on that northstar ptogenset.. as it has a splined imput shaft same as the tractor stub.. IE.. 1 3/8" 6 spline.

soundguy

Excellent point...I remember when shopping, I had to turn down many potential sellers because they did not make clear what the OTHER end was shaped like. I needed something like what you bought, but most were shaped for different duty, and some they didn't say and didn't have a good enough picture for me to tell.