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DavesTractor said:
Your dealer must be Bill Sutton. He and I have travelled together to India a couple years ago to visit and look at tractors, then recently we went to China to look over the Mahindra China facility. I really enjoy Bill. He's honest and knows his tractors. He has helped put Mahindra on the map.
you are correct sir. i've talked w/ bill a few times, but worked w/ his son justin - actually bought justin's personal tractor. my neighbor also bought his tractor from bill.
 
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Just to add, I recently purchased a 7520 from another Sutton location in Tulsa and very pleased with the dealership and more importantly, the tractor.
 
   / Off Brand #14  
Travis_R said:
Dave,

I looked at a "Lenar" brand tractor a while back and noticed something the dealer showed me (while I was bragging on my Mahindra). It had a tag below the dash that said "Mahindra Tractor (China)", or something in those words. My eyes bugged out and my mouth dropped! I was embarassed about bragging! What is Mahindra doing? Where do they stand with this? In my opinion, the tractor felt real good, but its just the fact that it was made in China. With me seeing that, that made me kind of skeptical about Mahindra, Even though I owned one and Would buy another. What is your input on that?

Thanks,
Travis R

Travis,
I have been waiting for Mahindra to release the economy China tractor, because I believe there is a good market for it in my area. I have talked to Mahindra many times about how soon it will be released. I have been told as soon as Mahindra has it meeting Mahindra standards they will release it. I think that says a lot for Mahindra as they have been working with this tractor for a few years to make it right. I know when it is released it will be a Mahindra quality tractor and I'm sure they will not release it until it is.
 
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#15  
I don't believe that my original intention was that I believe Mahindra is an Off brand company. I believe just the opposite. I was just trying to point out the fact that if people believe that a product made in India is inferior, than why is JD producing equipment there. And folks this is not just equipment to be sold overseas, this is their ENTIRE 5000 Series line. This is their Utility Tractor line from 45hp to 99hp. I would take a guess to say that this is a large chunk of their US sales.

One other thing that I noticed this morning on the way to work. I traveled thru 4 states (live in Maine, currently working in CT.) They bulk of the equipment used to do the summer highway mowing in these states is JD. Guess what they were all 5000 series.

This poses another question for me. I have done alot of work for several of the states and I know that most of their contracts for work or products require that materials be US made. I wonder how JD or the states are getting around this.
 
   / Off Brand #16  
I do not know of any utility size tractor made in the US that would hold up to highway use. The JD 6000 series and New Holland TL line are the ones used over here by the county. The State has Case CX tractors still which were made in England.

My thoughts on this "off brand" issue is that the people calling them off brand tractors do so because of the lack of dealers still. When Mahindra gets a good dealer network established and weeds out the fly by night ones and works with the dealers to put tractors on the lot then they will be accepted just like Kubota. They just need to get their dealer situation taken care of to be taken seriously.

This is not directed at any of the Mahindra dealers on here but from talking to other people and seeing some of the Mahindra dealers it does not look like Mahindra has very high standards as far as some of their dealers go. I know my local dealer is actually the reason some people here won't buy a Mahindra. I wouldn't buy from him but a lawn and garden shop just took on the Mahindra line also so maybe that will help them in this immediate area.
 
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Robert_in_NY said:
I do not know of any utility size tractor made in the US that would hold up to highway use. The JD 6000 series and New Holland TL line are the ones used over here by the county. The State has Case CX tractors still which were made in England.

My thoughts on this "off brand" issue is that the people calling them off brand tractors do so because of the lack of dealers still. When Mahindra gets a good dealer network established and weeds out the fly by night ones and works with the dealers to put tractors on the lot then they will be accepted just like Kubota. They just need to get their dealer situation taken care of to be taken seriously.

This is not directed at any of the Mahindra dealers on here but from talking to other people and seeing some of the Mahindra dealers it does not look like Mahindra has very high standards as far as some of their dealers go. I know my local dealer is actually the reason some people here won't buy a Mahindra. I wouldn't buy from him but a lawn and garden shop just took on the Mahindra line also so maybe that will help them in this immediate area.

Robert_in_NY. in ME, NH, MA, and CT today I saw all of these states using JD 5400 utility tractors for highway mowing, which is basically an 80hp machine. Also saw a few NH of about the same size.

Also by the way JD's 6000 line you guessed it not made in the US. Germany.

I do agree that Mahindra has to work on their dealers. I guess that I am lucky. I have two good dealers within 30 miles of the house.
 
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I never said the JD 6000 line was. They have always been made in Germany. I said that my county uses JD6000 and New Holland TL series tractors for mowing along the road.
 
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civesnedfield said:
I don't believe that my original intention was that I believe Mahindra is an Off brand company. I believe just the opposite. I was just trying to point out the fact that if people believe that a product made in India is inferior, than why is JD producing equipment there. And folks this is not just equipment to be sold overseas, this is their ENTIRE 5000 Series line. This is their Utility Tractor line from 45hp to 99hp. I would take a guess to say that this is a large chunk of their US sales.

One other thing that I noticed this morning on the way to work. I traveled thru 4 states (live in Maine, currently working in CT.) They bulk of the equipment used to do the summer highway mowing in these states is JD. Guess what they were all 5000 series.

This poses another question for me. I have done alot of work for several of the states and I know that most of their contracts for work or products require that materials be US made. I wonder how JD or the states are getting around this.

One of the first things about havng any shred of credability would be to get even your most basic facts straight. And so you totally blew that chance.

The ONLY part of the 5000 series Deere's made in India is the 5X03 series. The majority of the 5000 series is made in Augusta Georgia. Never let a little thing like the facts get in the way of a good BS story though, huh?
 
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Travis_R said:
Dave,

I looked at a "Lenar" brand tractor a while back and noticed something the dealer showed me (while I was bragging on my Mahindra). It had a tag below the dash that said "Mahindra Tractor (China)", or something in those words. My eyes bugged out and my mouth dropped! I was embarassed about bragging! What is Mahindra doing? Where do they stand with this? In my opinion, the tractor felt real good, but its just the fact that it was made in China. With me seeing that, that made me kind of skeptical about Mahindra, Even though I owned one and Would buy another. What is your input on that?

Thanks,
Travis R

Come on Travis, Give me a break....CNH (New Holland) built a factory in China 3 years ago or more....Now, are you embarrassed for them??/BobG in VA
 

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