Oil Filter Comparison

[daugen]

Yea we still are dealing with that double post issue? I have done it a few times myself i see recently?? What happended to the outcome of that Dbl post thread we had like a year ago going and Muhhamad was "looking " into it?

I've had to delete at least three double posts in the last week. The common theme when it seems to lose its mind is when a popup asks me if I really want to leave that page? I am sure not an IT guy, but I do know that message
hasn't come up in normal use.

 

[Soundguy]

yep.. I see it often

 

[clemsonfor]

they have been holding up for me on a tractor.. 1 year anyway. though no oil gets on them.

a lil gas sometimes from over choke though.


they are cheap enough to chage out more often if they do get damaged though..

I ran them for 50k miles or more on the ranger in my avatar that I still own with 290k miles on it. Before that was years of super tech I think? anyway I now run purorlator or wix or motorcraft. But I think it was that truck but seems like they coating would wear off, and I use to change them monthly back when I commuted! Or maybe its on the old K10, yea I think that's the one as it sits verticle and that thing leaks at every gasket and stays wet. and it gets yearly changes on it.

 

[clemsonfor]

I've had to delete at least three double posts in the last week. The common theme when it seems to lose its mind is when a popup asks me if I really want to leave that page? I am sure not an IT guy, but I do know that message
hasn't come up in normal use.

you don't always get that popup I don't think? But I do see it, I thought they were working on that like I said a YEAR ago!

 

[Soundguy]

i have a couple rowcrop forsds that will take the fl1a or fram ph8a .. but I use the supertech on them as it is shorter and makes fighting with the frame rail easier..

 

[MF 1532]

A few years ago I was invited to tour the Baldwin filter factory . The engineering dept. had their filters and other brands there , cut a part checking the micron of paper media , on machines pressure testing , etc. The one test I was impressed with was pouring shavings in a circulation line , circulating , then checking the fluid for how much didn't get filtered . They pointed out , no filter can be 100% efficient or the fluid or air would not flow . It takes a lot of $ , testing and expertise to know what is in a filter .

 

[JDgreen227]

There is not much for them to cheap out on a cartridge filter.

What baffles me is just why the cartridge filters I buy for my '04 Saturn L-300 are so d*** expensive, even if they are a Fram brand. Tiny little paper and plastic elements cost as much as a large Mobil 1 premium spin-on filter for my GMC. BTW, I am currently using WIX brand filter elements for that car as they seem to be better made than any other brand. I also use the Wix spin-ons for my Deere.

 

[Soundguy]

because it is for a saturn L.

go to napa nd buy a set of points for a ford 8n.

now go buy a set of points for an old muscle car that uses a equivalent ( crossover ) set.

the tractor points are cheaper.

 

[JDgreen227]

because it is for a saturn L.

go to napa nd buy a set of points for a ford 8n.

now go buy a set of points for an old muscle car that uses a equivalent ( crossover ) set.

the tractor points are cheaper.

And your "point" is....????

 

[daugen]

And your "point" is....????

I'm just guessing here but was your Saturn based on the German Opel? Could it have an unusual spec filter?

 

[Soundguy]

And your "point" is....????

same paert.. sold for a 'cheap' application many times.. is priced cheaper.

same part sold for a high priced application.. is more.

have seen it PLENTY of times....

 

[94BULLITT]

because it is for a saturn L.

go to napa nd buy a set of points for a ford 8n.

now go buy a set of points for an old muscle car that uses a equivalent ( crossover ) set.

the tractor points are cheaper.

I has a Ecotec that is used in GM small cars. A filter at Napa is a little over $8 for it.

 

[Kioti Tom]

I have never cut open a filter, I would plan to use a cut off wheel but not sure if the sparks and shavings are going to be good. What do you guys usually use?

on ebay search for "oil filter cutter". They have them on there. I got one there I use for aircraft filters...

Tom

 

[Gary Fowler]

same paert.. sold for a 'cheap' application many times.. is priced cheaper.

same part sold for a high priced application.. is more.

have seen it PLENTY of times....

I remember a friend of mine had a Cessna 150 airplane and needed a new carb and it was like $400. He was checking the model numbers and found that the Super C Farmall tractors used the same carb model and was $50. Same with alternator, used a Motorcraft alternator that was 5 times more expensive than exact same one for a car. Same quality but in order to get aviation certs required lots to testing so they wanted their money back. Likely same with some automobile specs might cause them(filter manufacturer) to have to do a lot of testing in order for the automobile mfg. to accept the filter, but then again might be something entirely different.
I do know same stuff for boats is higher than the exact stuff for automobiles also.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Some same discussion going on in the Kubota forum about using genuine Kubota oils and filters. Folks making all kinds of claims that OEM is better than generic but what no one has mentioned is that regardless of what is made whether tractor, car, boat or airplane, the equipment manufacturer doesn't make filters or oil. Someone else does and are contracted to paint the filters green or orange or blue and put on some specific name but they are still the same filters that you could buy with a trademark name like Wix or whatever but less cost than dealer sells them for. Same for oils, Kubota or JD or NH or any other tractor company doesn't run a refinery and the oil that is bottled in that container is run from a batch of same quality, type etc that may have a dozen different name labels put on them but come from bulk tanks from a particular refinery being Shell, Exxon, Chevron or Valero as those are the big boys making oil. A few small specialty refineries make some products like Amsoil but I don't know if they refine or just put in additives to someone elses oil. But my point is not one manufacturer of equipment runs a refinery or filter manufacturing plant and relies on filters or oil from others that meet their requirements. Is one better than another, maybe but that has not been proven to me.

 

[ghenges]

There's nothing on earth that can get 10 mile long parade of sacred cows going like questioning what oil filters or motor oil is best.

Don't over think it. Don't listen to the noise. Just put a Baldwin filter on it, and you'll be certain you're doing right.

 

[ghenges]

There's nothing on earth that can get 10 mile long parade of sacred cows going like questioning what oil filters or motor oil is best.

Don't over think it. Don't listen to the noise. Just put a Baldwin filter on it, and you'll be certain you're doing right.

 

[buickanddeere]

Same for oils, Kubota or JD or NH or any other tractor company doesn't run a refinery and the oil that is bottled in that container is run from a batch of same quality, type etc that may have a dozen different name labels put on them but come from bulk tanks from a particular refinery being Shell, Exxon, Chevron or Valero as those are the big boys making oil.

I worked maintenance at Pertro Canada on SouthDown Road Mississauga. Got to know the staff in the gasoline and lube oil test labs. Spent some time in there working on equipment. I can assure you that every tanker of 10W-30 lube oil,ATF and even wheel bearing grease is a unique and propriatory formulation. That GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyoto and Honda etc specified. One size does not fit all.

 

[JDgreen227]

I worked maintenance at Pertro Canada on SouthDown Road Mississauga. Got to know the staff in the gasoline and lube oil test labs. Spent some time in there working on equipment. I can assure you that every tanker of 10W-30 lube oil,ATF and even wheel bearing grease is a unique and propriatory formulation. That GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyoto and Honda etc specified. One size does not fit all.

If that is the case, how is it possible that you can mix different brands of motor oils and wheel bearing grease and the resulting mix of product will usually be compatable? Surely there cannot be THAT much difference in the formulation. I recall back about 1967, my dad owned a '53 Chevy with the Stovebolt six, and he put all kinds of different brands and weights of oil in the engine and when I asked him if that was okay, his reply was: "Oil is oil...." :laughing:

 

[Z71]

People falsely assume all oils are the same. Oil is Oil, Right? Wrong! Nothing could be farther from the truth. There are huge differences between oils that just meet the minimum specifications and those that exceed the minimum specifications. A car is a car but a Cruze is not a Corvette. Same goes for lubes.

The packaged OEM and other private label brands (Walmart, John Deere, Kubota etc) will meet the OEM's minimum specs. No more, no less. It is typically produced by the lowest bidder and when things are made by the low bidder, often times short cuts are taken in order to make a profit.

Example This Antifreeze Is Defective: It Froze Solid