You're right, Fram has become the bastard child. I just based my opinions on the info I've learned here. They may make varying levels of quality but I'd rather play it safe. I do use Fram on her Escort, where it's located it's very difficult to get a wrench on, so that coating on the end makes it easier for me to get it off. 110,000 miles & still going strong, maybe I am off base in saying there not very good.
Oil filter question
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Rowski
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Wish I could answere the question as I used only Fram for many years. Got a Dodge Cummins and was told any damage caused by use of a fram filter would not be covered under warranty.)</font>
Not sure how it is in Canada. Here in the US if a auto dealer claims that OEM filter must be used to keep warranty. The dealer (manufacturer) must supply (at no charge) the OEM filter. There was an Act passed can't remember the name. Not sure if this is the same for tractors or other motorized equipment.
Not sure how it is in Canada. Here in the US if a auto dealer claims that OEM filter must be used to keep warranty. The dealer (manufacturer) must supply (at no charge) the OEM filter. There was an Act passed can't remember the name. Not sure if this is the same for tractors or other motorized equipment.
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Interesting.
I've used Fram oil filters on my vehicles exclusively for the past 25 years. I tend to keep cars a long time and some had well over 100K miles when sold. I've never had a problem with Fram filters nor had I heard that there was a problem with them.
Jeff
I've used Fram oil filters on my vehicles exclusively for the past 25 years. I tend to keep cars a long time and some had well over 100K miles when sold. I've never had a problem with Fram filters nor had I heard that there was a problem with them.
Jeff
Egon
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It's the same in Canada. It was sort of suggested not to use Fram.
Interestingly the price of dealer filter went down to the price of a Fram as soon as the name Fram was mentioned.
Then I think for the warranty if a filter part was responsible Cumins would in turn go to Fram ????? Lots of inuendoes and disinformation confusing me and I'm still confused.
Just for peace of mind bought filters at the Cumins dealer which were priced less than a Fram.
Maybe just a note that pre 24 valve and 12 valve 5.9 Cumins have different oil filters due to different oil pressure.
Egon
Interestingly the price of dealer filter went down to the price of a Fram as soon as the name Fram was mentioned.
Then I think for the warranty if a filter part was responsible Cumins would in turn go to Fram ????? Lots of inuendoes and disinformation confusing me and I'm still confused.
Just for peace of mind bought filters at the Cumins dealer which were priced less than a Fram.
Maybe just a note that pre 24 valve and 12 valve 5.9 Cumins have different oil filters due to different oil pressure.
Egon
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The problem is that the CUT manufacturers do not publicize the filter specs. So in the case of my Cub, I can find a Wix filter that is the same physical size, but I don't know the filter material specs or the bypass pressure. So I am reluctant to take a chance, even though I am out of warranty. But I sure would like to find a cheaper alternative to the $85 hydraulic filter.
BIGUN
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Not sure how it is in Canada. Here in the US if a auto dealer claims that OEM filter must be used to keep warranty. The dealer (manufacturer) must supply (at no charge) the OEM filter. There was an Act passed can't remember the name. Not sure if this is the same for tractors or other motorized equipment. )</font>
Think you refer to the Magnusson Moss Act.
A lot of guys at another site trying to use this as a basis for warranty coverage on their Power Stroke Fords after installing aftermarket performance equipment. Think they are out of luck. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
MM Act
Think you refer to the Magnusson Moss Act.
A lot of guys at another site trying to use this as a basis for warranty coverage on their Power Stroke Fords after installing aftermarket performance equipment. Think they are out of luck. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
MM Act
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I think the engine oil filter for my Kubota costs something like $14 now. )</font>
Wow Henro, my Kioti transmission filter didn't cost me that much! I think the Oil filter was half that for the Kioti brand. I know there are a lot of good filters out there, but as someone else stated, I'm not sure of the specs on these filters, i.e. bypass pressures etc. so I'll stick with my Kioti original equipment. I, too, change my oil every 50 hours. It always looks like a good idea after I drain it! John
Wow Henro, my Kioti transmission filter didn't cost me that much! I think the Oil filter was half that for the Kioti brand. I know there are a lot of good filters out there, but as someone else stated, I'm not sure of the specs on these filters, i.e. bypass pressures etc. so I'll stick with my Kioti original equipment. I, too, change my oil every 50 hours. It always looks like a good idea after I drain it! John
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Well.. that is one thing.. All the filters I'm refering to are element/cartridge style filters.. not spin on jobs.. meaning the bypass pressure thing is not in play.. For instance as My N tractors hae a seperate oil bypass and relief valve at the front of the timing cover.. and the whole oil filtration system is bypass driven in the first place.
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I've seen this sort of post in the past and it is always interesting to read who uses what filter and who won't use anything but OEM. I guess I will say I DON'T use OEM now that my unit is out of warranty. I FOR SURE DON'T use OEM oil. Or should I say NEW HOLLAND OIL. How many folks out there use ONLY OEM OIL? I hear so much about OEM filters I wonder if using OEM OIL is also a big voodoo issue with those that don't want to chance pinching penny for the heart and liver of a unit.
Is the bad blood transfusion also an issue? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now I guess I am a penny pincher. I did buy a hydro filter for 24.00 this weekend only because Wix didn't have a replacement filter for it. However, I did buy a set of filters for my car, truck, JD and New Holland all for less that OEM filters for my JD. I know my truck has well over 100,000 miles and good oil and filters keeps it running well. I don't use any OEM for it just good up-keep.
I notice that I had a denso oil filter from the dealer on my TC33 and was told that normally they come with that filter from the factory but they changed them to a larger\different one after the first 50 hours...
So... I use Rotella and Wix filters and grease it with some high quality grease purchased from one of the local automotive stores. With that said, I hope to get as many hours as my old 55 Oliver did when Napa provided the filters for it.
Is the bad blood transfusion also an issue? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now I guess I am a penny pincher. I did buy a hydro filter for 24.00 this weekend only because Wix didn't have a replacement filter for it. However, I did buy a set of filters for my car, truck, JD and New Holland all for less that OEM filters for my JD. I know my truck has well over 100,000 miles and good oil and filters keeps it running well. I don't use any OEM for it just good up-keep.
I notice that I had a denso oil filter from the dealer on my TC33 and was told that normally they come with that filter from the factory but they changed them to a larger\different one after the first 50 hours...
So... I use Rotella and Wix filters and grease it with some high quality grease purchased from one of the local automotive stores. With that said, I hope to get as many hours as my old 55 Oliver did when Napa provided the filters for it.
FarmNut
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Henro,
I haven't priced OEM filters at my local dealer yet, but unless they are close to the price at Kubotastore.com, I will consider buying my filters online. If you want to continue using OEM filters, their prices appear to be well below the price you stated it was costing you for OEM filters ($14).
FarmNut
I haven't priced OEM filters at my local dealer yet, but unless they are close to the price at Kubotastore.com, I will consider buying my filters online. If you want to continue using OEM filters, their prices appear to be well below the price you stated it was costing you for OEM filters ($14).
FarmNut