Oil question

[Alan46]

Hi all, need some help in determining if I used the right oil in my kioti CK25 hst. All I could find at TSC was
Traveller heavy duty diesel oil, manual calls for cc or cd, they were out of stock on most types!
Anyone have any knowledge that would put my mind at ease if I could leave said oil in engine? Thanks in advance!

 

[RustyA]

Latest diesel oil spec is CJ or CK and they are backwards compatible to cc/cd spec. You didn't mention the spec or weight of the oil you used?

 

[Roadworthy]

Did you use diesel rated oil? Was it of the correct weight? I tend to order my lubricants online. If I spend enough money (easy at current prices) shipping to the house is free.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

Hi all, need some help in determining if I used the right oil in my kioti CK25 hst. All I could find at TSC was
Traveller heavy duty diesel oil, manual calls for cc or cd, they were out of stock on most types!
Anyone have any knowledge that would put my mind at ease if I could leave said oil in engine? Thanks in advance!

Even if you got the wrong winter weight you’re not going to have a problem in warm weather. I’d change it in the fall.

 

[Alan46]

I used 30 weight heavy duty diesel oil. Hope the picture helps!

 

[Alan46]

Even if you got the wrong winter weight you’re not going to have a problem in warm weather. I’d change it in the fall.

Thanks for the reply. The weight is fine, it's the spec callout from Kioti that cc or cd spec.
the product I got doesn't say that on the label.

 

[Bill Guenthner]

Use in modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or damage

 

[Strummer]

That’s actually a great oil . I run it in my F250. Meets or exceeds all api standards .

 

[Number15]

That’s actually a great oil . I run it in my F250. Meets or exceeds all api standards .

Well not really, I mean it exceeded api standard 17 years ago, but no longer comes close.
CF was superseded in 1995 and discontinued in 2010. If I was op I would probably use CK or CJ

 

[Alan46]

Well not really, I mean it exceeded api standard 17 years ago, but no longer comes close.
CF was superseded in 1995 and discontinued in 2010. If I was op I would probably use CK or CJ

Thanks, I will look on line.....I plan on doing a lot of chipping with the 3 point this spring so that's why I had my doubts about using that oil!

 

[Number15]

Thanks, I will look on line.....I plan on doing a lot of chipping with the 3 point this spring so that's why I had my doubts about using that oil!

If your manual calls for CC you will probably be OK with this oil. I would just use what you have and then buy better stuff in the future. Unless you can return what you have. What year is the tractor?

 

[Alan46]

If your manual calls for CC you will probably be OK with this oil. I would just use what you have and then buy better stuff in the future. Unless you can return what you have. What year is the tractor?

I bought it used, the manual was printed in 2009.

 

[Strummer]

Well not really, I mean it exceeded api standard 17 years ago, but no longer comes close.
CF was superseded in 1995 and discontinued in 2010. If I was op I would probably use CK or CJ

It is a CK-4

 

[Number15]

It is a CK-4
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ahh. I thought you were referring to the oil the OP posted. In this case I agree

 

[Strummer]

ahh. I thought you were referring to the oil the OP posted. In this case I agree

Hell I didn’t catch that .

 

[RjCorazza]

Easy to tell someone else to dump the oil and waste some cash, but I personally would not run a straight 30 weight in a modern engine in any season. Certainly do not have this oil in your tractor in a cold climate - it will be molasses when cold.

All that said, as previously posted API CF4 is backwards compatible to CC/CD.

 

[RoostersGarage]

I got tired of not being able to find oil on the shelves of TSC and became an Amsoil dealer. Turns out the Rotella T5 I was running cost about the same as the Amsoil diesel oil.

 

[MHarryE]

I used 30 weight heavy duty diesel oil. Hope the picture helps!View attachment 743106

Very interesting - Caterpillar TO-2 spec - the TO stands for Transmission Oil. That spec was obsolete when I began working for them in 1989. I suppose if you have really old equipment - from the 50's, maybe into the 60's. But it does say for older equipment. Didn't think any company would find it profitable to make oil suitable only for old stuff when current specs are backward compatible.

 

[LouNY]

It's not an oil I would use in anything modern.
I would consider it for my Dynahoe with the 2 stroke Detroit Diesel in it.

 

[crashz]

Ahh - you could maybe run it a little while. Should be fine if you avoid cold starts, but I'd dump it after a few hours. Look for a good deal on rotella or something like that and when you find it, change it.

What really has me cringing is all that language about being obsolete, don't run in a modern engine, won't prevent sludge and wear, etc. That is no-bueno. Too me, that oil is good good for hood latches and old push mowers.