One more year and I'll be a Free Man!

   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #61  
Redbug, and the other guys here who are anticipating retirement, I really hate to rain on your parade, but there is one grim truth that I need to inform you guys about, so you will be prepared for the bitter reality of it...

You think your well deserved days of retirement will float along, huh? You think you will have full, unlimited time to enjoy them? Well, it just doesn't work that way.

When you are working for a living, Monday thru Friday drag along, the clock barely seems to move at all. But on weekends, those days zip by like the clock shifted into double overdrive. ZIP, ZIP.

Now, when you are retired you basically do not have Monday thru Friday anymore, you now have six Saturdays and one Sunday for your week. ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP That is the sound of your new week passing by...no, it isn't fair, but nobody said it was going to be.

I truthfully feel like a jerk for letting you know, but better you find out the sad truth BEFORE you jump off the treadmill....:laughing: :laughing:
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #62  
Redbug, and the other guys here who are anticipating retirement, I really hate to rain on your parade, but there is one grim truth that I need to inform you guys about, so you will be prepared for the bitter reality of it...

You think your well deserved days of retirement will float along, huh? You think you will have full, unlimited time to enjoy them? Well, it just doesn't work that way.

When you are working for a living, Monday thru Friday drag along, the clock barely seems to move at all. But on weekends, those days zip by like the clock shifted into double overdrive. ZIP, ZIP.

Now, when you are retired you basically do not have Monday thru Friday anymore, you now have six Saturdays and one Sunday for your week. ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP ZIP That is the sound of your new week passing by...no, it isn't fair, but nobody said it was going to be.

I truthfully feel like a jerk for letting you know, but better you find out the sad truth BEFORE you jump off the treadmill....:laughing: :laughing:

Amen JD....You are telling like it really is......ZIP is right....it just flys by - days, weeks, months and years...:laughing:
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #63  
Brin...Enjoy! It's OUR song! We earned it.

JD...I am tired of living life as a see-saw. I call it the see-saw. Up and down, up and down. Trying to get things done in your real life while fitting in work in between. Like you say...zip, zip. Frankly..My life stops while at work. I hate wasting time! I want it to zip, zip! And get on with life. Sorry, but I like rain on the parade!
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #64  
By the way...in just a little over 2 years I will be a free man! I'm 53 now. I have been looking at all the angles. We have had everything paid off and I simply can't wait! I sure am glad I am not one of the younger people just starting out! I pity them! I feel like I am being given a whole new life! I am on the edge of something really great, too! All the saving and investing will pay off. No more difficult psychotics to work with. I am already putting them in their place as I get shorter, too.

My idea of what retirement is like:
"Remember when you were a little kid...before the big people sent you to kindergarten? Remember those seemingly endless days of play? Those days when you got up and ate breakfast, then went out to play? Then you'd come in for lunch and a nap, and then go back out to play until supper time? Then after supper you'd go out to play until dark or until bedtime...whichever you could get away with? Then you'd start all over the next day? Well, that's what retirement is like!!!".

This is what I think retirement feels like...
YouTube - Where the **** is Matt?

I even have my retirement song picked out! I play it now and again. Wanna hear it? Turn your speakers on and listen closely to the lyrics!
YouTube - ‪Lindisfarne - Born At The Right Time‬‏

Life is too short and there are too many other things to do while you have your mind and health.


I like youre attitude. You will do well.
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #65  
I think calculations are over simplified.

By retiring early, you have to consider the income lost by not working as well as what SS pays.

In my case, I was born in '43, so my "full retirement" age is 66.

If I go out at 62, I lose my working income and I also fail to earn SS credit for 4 years of work, the time I would have worked if I had stayed until 66.

So let's say I make $50K. Referring to the chart at Early or delayed retirement, I would make 75% of my full amount if I quit at 62. I also lose $200K of income I would have made during those 4 years. Let's assume I quit at 62 and to keep things simple, assume I would have made $1,000 per month on SS at full retirement. From age 62 until 75 I would make $126,000.
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #66  
I think calculations have been over simplified.

By retiring early, you have to consider the income lost by not working as well as what SS pays.

In my case, I was born in '43, so my "full retirement" age is 66.

For my age group, if I went out at 62, I lose my working income and I also fail to earn SS credit for 4 years of work, the time I would have worked if I had stayed until 66. And if I worked 40 years instead of 44 years, that's a 10% difference in working years, generally peak earning years, so those 4 years alone might make a 15% difference in the SS check.

So let's say I make $50K at my job. Referring to the chart at Early or delayed retirement, I would make 75% of my full amount if I quit at 62. I also lose $200K of income I would have made during those 4 years between 62 & 66.

Let's assume I quit at 62 and to keep things simple, assume I would have made $1,000 per month on SS at full retirement. From age 62 on I would make just $9,000 per year on SS, or $126,000 by age 75. If I work until 66, SS would pay $12,000 per year and my income from age 62 until 75 would be $320,000. If I worked until 66 and lived off investments, waiting until 70 to draw SS, my income would be $15,840 per year and I would make $345,000 from age 62 until 75.

And if I didn't croak until the end of my 80th year, the totals would be $171,000, $380.000 and $424,240.

The lesson is, be sure you count everything before you decide. Plus,do you have everything paid off, will you need a new vehicle in the next few years, how much do you make now vs. what retirement will pay, SS & others. And if you have some other retirement system, is it safe?

Figure Medicare is going to cost more (a lot more, probably), make sure you have a nest egg. And figure SS benefits won't hold steady--there is talk in Washington about changing the cost of living formula that would cut the increases by about 1/2 percent per year. Do not count on government promises as government promises are made by politicians.

Full disclosure: I took early retirement from the gov't at age 49 since the Forest Service became afraid to cut trees any more & without a timber program I couldn't justify my job & it probably would have been eliminated anyway. I get a civil service retirement check, greatly reduced from what I would have gotten had I gone until I had 30 years in. My planned alternative didn't work out, but the Air Guard came thru a few years later but there is mandatory retirement from there at age 60. As a civil service retiree, the gov't will take about $300 per month off the top of my SS check when I start to draw that.

Regarding government promises, when I went to work for the gov't, if I had earned SS credit in the private sector, I was supposed to get SS just like everyone else who had earned it, which I did by working in the private sector for 19 years. But in the '80's, they changed the law for CS employees to take $300 per month off the top of the SS check unless you worked 30 years in the private sector. So I get 19 years credit for my working time minus $300 per month. When the country called and I went into the service during the Vietnam war, we were told we would get SS credit for our military time, even though we didn't pay into the system. In the '80's, they said "oh, by the way, we changed our mind" and to get credit for the military time and also draw CS retirement, we would have to pay into the system what we would have paid if the military had not been exempt from SS. That came to about $2,000. And they also said if we retired from the military we and our dependents would get free health care for life. They reneged on that one too.

Government promises are politician's promises.

Some will say, hey he shouldn't complain, he'll be a triple dipper. Yeah, I'll be a triple dipper when I draw SS, but none of them are very big checks--early CS retirement, most of the military time was part time and private sector work was only 19 years and they steal $300 off the top of that. And I earned every dollar, working full time for the Forest Service, full time and part time with the military and we had a business all at the same time. 23 years Forest Service, 23 years military and 19 years private sector, some overlapping (that's 65 working years and I'm 68!).
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #67  
About 5 years before I retired company changed the retiree medical plan from providing insurance to providing a Medical Savings Plan with option to use that money to purchase a plan sponsored by the company. That plan cost was cheaper than what else I could buy elsewhere. When I went on Medicare 4 years ago, Company HR showed me where I could purchase a plan cheaper than what the company offers. Company plan cost a little over $500 a month for a couple. Plus Co-Pays and Deductibles. First plan we went on was a Advantage plan. Rates kept going up until it was costing as much as the company offered plan. But when you leave the company plan you cannot go back. My mother is in her 90's and has a Medicare Supplemental plan. Her cost are $0 for doctor and hospital visit. I went looking for a similar plan. Found the same plan my mother is on. BCBS would always send me to people that wanted to sell Advantage plans. Finally found a supervisor that sent me to someone that sent me a application. Applied and was accepted. $121 a month plus a prescription plan from Humana. Then Medical Saving Plan I mentioned above pays for that and my dental. Plus enough to pay for new glasses every other year.
When the company went to the Medical Savings Plan, future retirees wanted to do harm to management. Those that stayed on company plan still may want too. But if you want to manage this stuff yourself. It works out well.
Your company may not offer what my company does. Best thing to do is talk to company HR department. They may have some good option for you. Or you will know where you stand with retiree benefits from them.
Company I have been working for the last three years does not offer much of anything. I was able to keep my wife on the dental plan when she went on Medicare this month and that was it. A&B and an "F" plan should be cheaper when we factor in the deductables we had to pay out with her on my work plan.

Mostly though, I wanted my wife covered in case I make a jump to some other employment because I am not happy with my job.

The new enrollment just came out of course with little or no changes other than a 20/month increase for me. It looks like big changes are in store though. The company is jumping on the risk factor bandwagon. IE; if you smoke, are overweight, etc. you are going to pay more.
 
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#68  
Although I appreciate all the effort of explaining the numbers, I don't care what it costs. Stick a fork in me , I'm done. JD, you are making me a little nervous with that 6 zips and it's Sunday thing. Things are zipping along pretty fast now, I don't need it speeding up any.
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #69  
Although I appreciate all the effort of explaining the numbers, I don't care what it costs. Stick a fork in me , I'm done. JD, you are making me a little nervous with that 6 zips and it's Sunday thing. Things are zipping along pretty fast now, I don't need it speeding up any.

Well I am sorry that I contributed my nickle's worth, but that was only MY biased opinion and it may be partly created by my own age, I turned 60 3 months ago.

It is a common observation that time seems to speed up as one ages, and about 1980 I read a column by Sidney Harris that explained it better than anything else. His viewpoint was like this:

Suppose you have $20 in your wallet, and I give you $20 more, effectively doubling your money. The extra $20 will seem like a lot. Now, suppose you have $2000 in your wallet, and I give you the same $20 more. Although the increase is the same $20, it looks rather small compared to the $2000 you already have.

Now, lets take this example and apply it to your lifespan. If you are ten years old, one year makes up one tenth of your life, and when you are 60, one year makes up one-sixtieth of your life. Although the year is the same in both cases, one year is going to seem a lot longer to the ten year old than it does to the sixty year old.

EVERYBODY GOT THAT?? :laughing:
 
   / One more year and I'll be a Free Man! #70  
I like to think of it this way. I have been alive 56 years. The first 10 don't count. I don't remember a thing about my first 10 years and can not compare those years to anything. So relatively thinking I am only 46 years old. Hows that for thinking psychologically?:D
 

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