Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres

   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #11  
Ferris IS700Z 52 Inch w/ Bagger Price $6,649 mower + $2275 bagger
Toro Titin MX5400 w/ Bagger Price $5,999 mower + $1480 bagger
JD Z445 54 Inch w/ Bagger Price $4,700 mower + $1,050 bagger

I have a Deere Z655 with 54" deck and ~23HP B&S that I purchased new last May for $5k. I cut around 3 acres +/- that previously included some hay pasture and is mostly level or gently sloping with a few short, steep slopes and ditch banks. Original blades, but I've considered the inexpensive mulching kit that has special blades and baffles... couldn't justify cost of bagging kit. Bottom line: Fast, fuel efficient and fun to mow with. Recommend it highly, and think it is worth upgrading from Z400 series for the high capacity deck and upgraded HST motors/speed (?), and downgrading from the Z900 series for non-commercial "prosumer" uses considering the cost differences. 5 year warranty is nice too -- have only used warranty once when a belt tensioner arm broke and left me stranded -- and still on original belts at 90 hrs.

Compared with my former/standby 46" Husqvarna residential lawn tractor with bagger, the Deere absolutely blows it away in speed, maneuverability and capability in thick/tall grass. The engine starts and runs well (much quieter than Kohler engine in the Husq), the twin HST mowers are very quiet and responsive (Z900 motors were much louder during my test drive), and the deck chews up and spits out everything it has encountered with even spread and no windrows even at full speed of 9mph. It is much lighter than the commercial units -- a concern when mowing lower spots in my lawn that get a little soft when the rain is heavy, plus when towing or the occasional pushing when things go wrong. I think the deck is actually the same as the Z900 series but without the rear anti-scalp wheels and green paint, and it is tough! The high back seat is also much nicer than the typical mower seat, but a suspension seat would still be ideal. Thinking about buying hitch/tow kit for aerator and wagon, and front weights to settle down the occasionally rough ride.

The downsides: smallish fuel tank and no fuel gauge, it doesn't have a seatbelt or rollover protection and will try to buck you right out of the seat in bumpy terrain at full speed, the tight location of the oil filter makes it a pain to change, and it will absolutely RUIN you when driving lesser mowers. And with any ZTR and lots of mowing, paying extra for ethanol free gas and keeping it in hand can be a hassle. Thinking about going propane for mass storage benefits, cheaper price per gallon, and also cleaner running engine... may be worth paying for factory propane configuration if available and/or ideal for your location. I don't know enough about the others to provide an educated comparison, but this Deere I recommend based on positive experience and maybe some ignorance of the competition.
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #12  
I have a Hustler Super Z diesel 66" and it's been a great machine. My buddy has a Scag Cheetah 61" and that's a great machine too. My other buddy runs an ExMark Laser Z 48" and once again, great machine.

I think that one you step up to the "commercial" class of ZTR's, it'll all come down to dealer availability and personal preference. They're all good.
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #14  
I have an old (circa 1986) Woods with a 52" cut and couldn't live without it. I restored it, rebuilt the engine (minor parts) and resealed the Eaton pump/drives a few years ago. They don't call them Mowing Machines for nothing. No matter what you decide on, check on the ease of replacing belts and blades as well as adjusting the deck. Going from lawn to weeds should be simple. Cup holders and fancy panels are for urban weekenders so base your decision on the work it can do. :)

I'm pretty sure that's a rebadged grasshopper. And grasshopper make nice mowers!
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #15  
Thanks in advance for your replies. I just purchased a 5 acre property, 2 of the acres are irrigated yard turf, and 3 are rough. The entire property is mostly flat, though the rough area does have some dips. The former owner kept the turf area very well with a JD X500 w/ bagger. I need to purchase a mower this week and have narrowed it down to a few ZTR models which I hope to use on both sides of the property. Here are the quotes I received from a local shop, any advice on pricing, selection, bagging ability, and durability appreciated: Ferris IS700Z 52 Inch w/ Bagger Price $6,649 mower + $2275 bagger Toro Titin MX5400 w/ Bagger Price $5,999 mower + $1480 bagger JD Z445 54 Inch w/ Bagger Price $4,700 mower + $1,050 bagger All had Kawasaki motors Other models considered: Snapper Pro x150, Husqvarna MZT52 Other models I checked out: various Hustler, various Gravely, various bad boy, various Kubota

When you say rough... Does that mean the yard is rough as in bumps and ruts?

Also do you plan to mow all five acres every week?
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #16  
I have a Dixie chopper silver eagle with a 50" deck. If I was buying another mower it would be a used Grasshopper powered by diesel.
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #17  
I have a Dixie chopper silver eagle with a 50" deck. If I was buying another mower it would be a used Grasshopper powered by diesel.
I really like my Kubota Diesel. But might be an overkill for the OP. Diesels are the way to go if you mow a lot. Very fuel efficient, tons of power, and super reliable. Here's a couple vids of mine.

https://youtu.be/DOYVLzbxeEg

https://youtu.be/DsZKBqIDUJw


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   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #18  
I'd second the Grasshopper, they are good mowers and are easy to work on if needed.
Will you have to plow snow, Grasshoppers can also mount a blade or snowblower up front
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #19  
Currently I have two exmark laser Z, had a scag. All good mowers.
Went with exmark because of dealer and price.
 
   / Opinions on new ZTR Purchase 5 acres #20  
I really like my Kubota Diesel. But might be an overkill for the OP. Diesels are the way to go if you mow a lot. Very fuel efficient, tons of power, and super reliable. Here's a couple vids of mine. https://youtu.be/DOYVLzbxeEg https://youtu.be/DsZKBqIDUJw <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/buying-pricing-comparisons/444220-opinions-new-ztr-purchase-5-a-image-69665165-jpg"/>
I wouldn't mind having one of those either, but the used Grasshoppers are way cheaper. A diesel mower can blow away a gas motor in high grass even if the rated hp is less on the diesel.
 
 
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