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congratulations. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. best toy er... tool known to man.. I use the light material bucket more than the 4-1 it holds more and is easier to attach.. but the 4-1 is helpful
Ordered my PT425!!!
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<font color="blue"> I have the turf tires and have had no problems. I think you will find they will work in almost all situations. Try them for about a year and if you feel you need another set of bar tires for special work then that is the time to buy.
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Thanks, I'm hoping this would be the case. I probably will look at alternatives but hopefully I won't need them. I'll post what I learn on this forum.
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Thanks, I'm hoping this would be the case. I probably will look at alternatives but hopefully I won't need them. I'll post what I learn on this forum.
<font color="blue">congratulations. . best toy er... tool known to man.. I use the light material bucket more than the 4-1 it holds more and is easier to attach.. but the 4-1 is helpful </font>
Thanks! I'm curious as to why the 4-1 bucket is harder to attach, when I looked at them I couldn't see much difference?
I really thought long and hard about getting the light material bucket abut I thought I would get the 4-1 and let my needs drive acquisition of the light material bucket. I also wanted to look at the feasibility of adding add'l capacity to the 4-1 bucket before I purchased another bucket I'd have to store somewhere.
Thanks! I'm curious as to why the 4-1 bucket is harder to attach, when I looked at them I couldn't see much difference?
I really thought long and hard about getting the light material bucket abut I thought I would get the 4-1 and let my needs drive acquisition of the light material bucket. I also wanted to look at the feasibility of adding add'l capacity to the 4-1 bucket before I purchased another bucket I'd have to store somewhere.
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Normal implements take 15 seconds to attach without getting off the tractor. Powered implements with hydraulic motors and cylinders take the added time to get off the tractor, plug in a couple hoses and get back on the tractor. Soooo, your 4-in-1 bucket will probably take a whopping 30-45 seconds to attach VS 15 seconds for a standard bucket. That's a 200-300 percent increase in time!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Congratulations on your purchase. I bet you will love it.
As to the tires I have used the turf tires on mine for 5 years and they work good in snow , to my surprise, and in almost all instances I think they do a good job. The ag tread will do better in mud but the turf tires will not disappoint you.
As to the tires I have used the turf tires on mine for 5 years and they work good in snow , to my surprise, and in almost all instances I think they do a good job. The ag tread will do better in mud but the turf tires will not disappoint you.
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<font color="blue"> I would expect the stump cutter blade to turn CW and throw debris away from the tractor! </font>
<font color="red"> Exactly!! For details go to: Stump Grinder Rotation </font>
<font color="blue"> I'm wondering if ATV wheels and tires might not work on the PT425. </font>
<font color="red"> NO! ATV tires are the wrong size, but more importantly are NOT made to carry the front tire load of about 1200# each!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif</font>
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<font color="red"> Exactly!! For details go to: Stump Grinder Rotation </font>
<font color="blue"> I'm wondering if ATV wheels and tires might not work on the PT425. </font>
<font color="red"> NO! ATV tires are the wrong size, but more importantly are NOT made to carry the front tire load of about 1200# each!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif</font>
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Sounds great.
I echo all the turf tire supporters. I now have both for my 1845. The bar tires are no better in snow, and only slightly better in mud. And they do leave tracks. You won't be disappointed with turfs.
I echo all the turf tire supporters. I now have both for my 1845. The bar tires are no better in snow, and only slightly better in mud. And they do leave tracks. You won't be disappointed with turfs.
<font color="blue"> Normal implements take 15 seconds to attach without getting off the tractor. Powered implements with hydraulic motors and cylinders take the added time to get off the tractor, plug in a couple hoses and get back on the tractor. Soooo, your 4-in-1 bucket will probably take a whopping 30-45 seconds to attach VS 15 seconds for a standard bucket. That's a 200-300 percent increase in time!!!! </font>
As the Branson, MO mad russian says: I never looked at it that way!
I tend to put utility ahead of efficiency until I get some experience with things. Thats' why I drive an older (1989 Ford) PU and fish from a SUB (Sport Utility Boat). Most of the time I don't have to move away from my original direction but I don't hesitate to change direction if circumstances warrant it. Too many years of being an IT Auditor I guess!
As the Branson, MO mad russian says: I never looked at it that way!
I tend to put utility ahead of efficiency until I get some experience with things. Thats' why I drive an older (1989 Ford) PU and fish from a SUB (Sport Utility Boat). Most of the time I don't have to move away from my original direction but I don't hesitate to change direction if circumstances warrant it. Too many years of being an IT Auditor I guess!
<font color="blue"> Congratulations on your purchase. I bet you will love it.
As to the tires I have used the turf tires on mine for 5 years and they work good in snow , to my surprise, and in almost all instances I think they do a good job. The ag tread will do better in mud but the turf tires will not disappoint you. </font>
Thaniks for your thoughts on the turf tires. The main concern I've had has been the food plot work I'll do with it pulling ATV implements. It would seem to me the extra weight would affset the traction advantage that atv tractor type tires would have.
Have you tried to put chains on your tires? On the farm we used to do that and that helped traction considerably in miserable conditions.
As to the tires I have used the turf tires on mine for 5 years and they work good in snow , to my surprise, and in almost all instances I think they do a good job. The ag tread will do better in mud but the turf tires will not disappoint you. </font>
Thaniks for your thoughts on the turf tires. The main concern I've had has been the food plot work I'll do with it pulling ATV implements. It would seem to me the extra weight would affset the traction advantage that atv tractor type tires would have.
Have you tried to put chains on your tires? On the farm we used to do that and that helped traction considerably in miserable conditions.
I would expect the stump cutter blade to turn CW and throw debris away from the tractor!
Exactly!! For details go to: Stump Grinder Rotation
True value info, I'll do exactly that after I make sure it will run and before I try to use it!
I'm wondering if ATV wheels and tires might not work on the PT425.
NO! ATV tires are the wrong size, but more importantly are NOT made to carry the front tire load of about 1200# each!!
I was looking at ATV tires for food plot usage potential, not any kind of load carrying work. Based on what I've seen, ATV tires use the same diameter wheels as the PT425 and some of the wider ATV widths are also the same. They tend to be a bit taller which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for pulling ATV implements. http://www.tiresnstuff.com/gbc,itp-atv.html
would be a good place to look at ATV tires.
Exactly!! For details go to: Stump Grinder Rotation
True value info, I'll do exactly that after I make sure it will run and before I try to use it!
I'm wondering if ATV wheels and tires might not work on the PT425.
NO! ATV tires are the wrong size, but more importantly are NOT made to carry the front tire load of about 1200# each!!
I was looking at ATV tires for food plot usage potential, not any kind of load carrying work. Based on what I've seen, ATV tires use the same diameter wheels as the PT425 and some of the wider ATV widths are also the same. They tend to be a bit taller which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for pulling ATV implements. http://www.tiresnstuff.com/gbc,itp-atv.html
would be a good place to look at ATV tires.
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<font color="blue"> </font> "Normal implements take 15 seconds to attach without getting off the tractor. Powered implements with hydraulic motors and cylinders take the added time to get off the tractor, plug in a couple hoses and get back on the tractor. Soooo, your 4-in-1 bucket will probably take a whopping 30-45 seconds to attach VS 15 seconds for a standard bucket. That's a 200-300 percent increase in time!!!!" <font color="black"> </font>
Slight simplification.. it takes me 20 seconds to get off the tractor.. then for the 4-1 you have to remove the quick attach hydo's and attach the bucket hydro's.. and then sometimes they don't go on easily, built up pressure.. so there is the walk to get the hammer.. so it could take up to 60 min since I need to stop in the house for a beverage and a snack check the news or the PT forum for new messages..
Slight simplification.. it takes me 20 seconds to get off the tractor.. then for the 4-1 you have to remove the quick attach hydo's and attach the bucket hydro's.. and then sometimes they don't go on easily, built up pressure.. so there is the walk to get the hammer.. so it could take up to 60 min since I need to stop in the house for a beverage and a snack check the news or the PT forum for new messages..
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<font color="blue"> so it could take up to 60 min since I need to stop in the house for a beverage and a snack check the news or the PT forum for new messages.. </font>
I like your timeline better /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I like your timeline better /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
<font color="blue"> Normal implements take 15 seconds to attach without getting off the tractor. Powered implements with hydraulic motors and cylinders take the added time to get off the tractor, plug in a couple hoses and get back on the tractor. Soooo, your 4-in-1 bucket will probably take a whopping 30-45 seconds to attach VS 15 seconds for a standard bucket. That's a 200-300 percent increase in time!!!!"
Slight simplification.. it takes me 20 seconds to get off the tractor.. then for the 4-1 you have to remove the quick attach hydo's and attach the bucket hydro's.. and then sometimes they don't go on easily, built up pressure.. so there is the walk to get the hammer.. so it could take up to 60 min since I need to stop in the house for a beverage and a snack check the news or the PT forum for new messages..
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I like that timeline when I'm at home! However, I'm not sure I would like it if I'm working at a future customer's location.
I may find out soon, my PowerTrac mini-hoe is due for completion very soon and I'll be going out there to pick everything up, hopefully next week!
Slight simplification.. it takes me 20 seconds to get off the tractor.. then for the 4-1 you have to remove the quick attach hydo's and attach the bucket hydro's.. and then sometimes they don't go on easily, built up pressure.. so there is the walk to get the hammer.. so it could take up to 60 min since I need to stop in the house for a beverage and a snack check the news or the PT forum for new messages..
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I like that timeline when I'm at home! However, I'm not sure I would like it if I'm working at a future customer's location.
I may find out soon, my PowerTrac mini-hoe is due for completion very soon and I'll be going out there to pick everything up, hopefully next week!
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Don't worry. If you are doing work for money, you will learn quickly a few things...
In doing volunteer work for our old Little League and our children's school and church, here's what I've learned...
Get a trailer with a workbox on it that is big enough to hold shovels, rakes, post hole digger and pry bar. Also keep chains, tie downs, hammer, punch and assorted hand tools, as well as your lunchbox. The trailer should be large enough to take your entire arsenal of attachments with you, wether you need them or not. This impresses the heck out of people when you show up as a one man crew with all this stuff in a nice, neat package.
Park in a place where you can unload attachments easily, if needed. I like to back off the trailer with my large bucket attached to the tractor. In that, I usually have nested my small bucket and the pallet forks. I dump the small bucket so that I can access it from the side that the quick attach for the forks is on. Then I go off to work. If I need to switch attachments, I quickly drive over to the staging area, drop the current attachment in a nice straight line with the other attachments and pick up the next one and go back to work ASAP. This impresses the heck out of folks, too.
I try to do the tasks as quickly and efficiently as possible. If working for a foreman(at church, there is always a foreman), I complete the task and drive over to the foreman and ask for another task. This also impresses people. Man, that machine works fast(they don't give credit to the operator).
At the end of the day, I load up all the attachments that I've used for the day in the reverse order and tie down the tractor. Then I give the operator's area a quick wipe down with a rag, double check my tie downs and lock my tool box. A quick inspection of the area for any debris and a handshake for anyone that stayed and worked as long as the tractor(this impresses them, too) and off I go.
I talk a lot about impressing people. But, after all, that is what you need to do to increase business by word of mouth. It is going to be your free advertising. And first impressions are lasting ones. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
In doing volunteer work for our old Little League and our children's school and church, here's what I've learned...
Get a trailer with a workbox on it that is big enough to hold shovels, rakes, post hole digger and pry bar. Also keep chains, tie downs, hammer, punch and assorted hand tools, as well as your lunchbox. The trailer should be large enough to take your entire arsenal of attachments with you, wether you need them or not. This impresses the heck out of people when you show up as a one man crew with all this stuff in a nice, neat package.
Park in a place where you can unload attachments easily, if needed. I like to back off the trailer with my large bucket attached to the tractor. In that, I usually have nested my small bucket and the pallet forks. I dump the small bucket so that I can access it from the side that the quick attach for the forks is on. Then I go off to work. If I need to switch attachments, I quickly drive over to the staging area, drop the current attachment in a nice straight line with the other attachments and pick up the next one and go back to work ASAP. This impresses the heck out of folks, too.
I try to do the tasks as quickly and efficiently as possible. If working for a foreman(at church, there is always a foreman), I complete the task and drive over to the foreman and ask for another task. This also impresses people. Man, that machine works fast(they don't give credit to the operator).
At the end of the day, I load up all the attachments that I've used for the day in the reverse order and tie down the tractor. Then I give the operator's area a quick wipe down with a rag, double check my tie downs and lock my tool box. A quick inspection of the area for any debris and a handshake for anyone that stayed and worked as long as the tractor(this impresses them, too) and off I go.
I talk a lot about impressing people. But, after all, that is what you need to do to increase business by word of mouth. It is going to be your free advertising. And first impressions are lasting ones. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<font color="blue"> Don't worry. If you are doing work for money, you will learn quickly a few things...
In doing volunteer work for our old Little League and our children's school and church, here's what I've learned...
Get a trailer with a workbox on it that is big enough to hold shovels, rakes, post hole digger and pry bar. Also keep chains, tie downs, hammer, punch and assorted hand tools, as well as your lunchbox. The trailer should be large enough to take your entire arsenal of attachments with you, wether you need them or not. This impresses the heck out of people when you show up as a one man crew with all this stuff in a nice, neat package.
Park in a place where you can unload attachments easily, if needed. I like to back off the trailer with my large bucket attached to the tractor. In that, I usually have nested my small bucket and the pallet forks. I dump the small bucket so that I can access it from the side that the quick attach for the forks is on. Then I go off to work. If I need to switch attachments, I quickly drive over to the staging area, drop the current attachment in a nice straight line with the other attachments and pick up the next one and go back to work ASAP. This impresses the heck out of folks, too.
I try to do the tasks as quickly and efficiently as possible. If working for a foreman(at church, there is always a foreman), I complete the task and drive over to the foreman and ask for another task. This also impresses people. Man, that machine works fast(they don't give credit to the operator).
At the end of the day, I load up all the attachments that I've used for the day in the reverse order and tie down the tractor. Then I give the operator's area a quick wipe down with a rag, double check my tie downs and lock my tool box. A quick inspection of the area for any debris and a handshake for anyone that stayed and worked as long as the tractor(this impresses them, too) and off I go.
I talk a lot about impressing people. But, after all, that is what you need to do to increase business by word of mouth. It is going to be your free advertising. And first impressions are lasting ones. </font>
MossRoads, that's great advice! I can't get enough of that from those who have been there! As I learn to effectively operate the equipment I'll start edging into what you mentioned along with developing a business plan. Initially, along with volunteer work, I'll be working my first market area, my immediate subdivison neighborhood where I can drive the tractor to the job.
I have been looking at trailers as its just a matter of time until I need one. I'll probably see how my brother's single axle trailer works and then go from there. The car hauler still sounds like the best way to go. The drawback to tandem rigs is the ability to move them around in my garage which is why my boat sets on a single axle trailer.
In doing volunteer work for our old Little League and our children's school and church, here's what I've learned...
Get a trailer with a workbox on it that is big enough to hold shovels, rakes, post hole digger and pry bar. Also keep chains, tie downs, hammer, punch and assorted hand tools, as well as your lunchbox. The trailer should be large enough to take your entire arsenal of attachments with you, wether you need them or not. This impresses the heck out of people when you show up as a one man crew with all this stuff in a nice, neat package.
Park in a place where you can unload attachments easily, if needed. I like to back off the trailer with my large bucket attached to the tractor. In that, I usually have nested my small bucket and the pallet forks. I dump the small bucket so that I can access it from the side that the quick attach for the forks is on. Then I go off to work. If I need to switch attachments, I quickly drive over to the staging area, drop the current attachment in a nice straight line with the other attachments and pick up the next one and go back to work ASAP. This impresses the heck out of folks, too.
I try to do the tasks as quickly and efficiently as possible. If working for a foreman(at church, there is always a foreman), I complete the task and drive over to the foreman and ask for another task. This also impresses people. Man, that machine works fast(they don't give credit to the operator).
At the end of the day, I load up all the attachments that I've used for the day in the reverse order and tie down the tractor. Then I give the operator's area a quick wipe down with a rag, double check my tie downs and lock my tool box. A quick inspection of the area for any debris and a handshake for anyone that stayed and worked as long as the tractor(this impresses them, too) and off I go.
I talk a lot about impressing people. But, after all, that is what you need to do to increase business by word of mouth. It is going to be your free advertising. And first impressions are lasting ones. </font>
MossRoads, that's great advice! I can't get enough of that from those who have been there! As I learn to effectively operate the equipment I'll start edging into what you mentioned along with developing a business plan. Initially, along with volunteer work, I'll be working my first market area, my immediate subdivison neighborhood where I can drive the tractor to the job.
I have been looking at trailers as its just a matter of time until I need one. I'll probably see how my brother's single axle trailer works and then go from there. The car hauler still sounds like the best way to go. The drawback to tandem rigs is the ability to move them around in my garage which is why my boat sets on a single axle trailer.
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Our caul hauler won't fit in our garage, so it sits outside. It would be nice to have the tractor on the trailer inside the garage ready to go at a moment's notice. If you want to park the trailer without the tractor on it, however, then you can just use the tractor with a ball hitch on the FEL mounted reciever and use it to maneuver the trailer around very nimbly. I use to stack hangars with airplanes with a little tractor called an Air Horse and if you are facing the trailer, it is so much easier than backing things around with a pickup truck or conventional tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<font color="blue"> Our caul hauler won't fit in our garage, so it sits outside. It would be nice to have the tractor on the trailer inside the garage ready to go at a moment's notice. If you want to park the trailer without the tractor on it, however, then you can just use the tractor with a ball hitch on the FEL mounted reciever and use it to maneuver the trailer around very nimbly. I use to stack hangars with airplanes with a little tractor called an Air Horse and if you are facing the trailer, it is so much easier than backing things around with a pickup truck or conventional tractor. </font>
I agree its much easier to back things up if you're facing them instead of backing them up with a vehicle. We always had a front hitch on our farm tractors to place pull type equipment into very tight spots (they also kept brush off the radiator area).
My boat trailer has about 2" clearance to each side of my garage door and its an angled approach. Its a diifficult backing situation and I usually end up a little bit on my neighbor's turf before I get it through the opening. I'll definitely be using the PT425 with the FEL mounted receiver to back it into the garage.
To get it to the back of my basement garage requires a bit of a jog and that's where moving a tandem axle by hand is a problem.
I'll see if I can master both getting the boat into the garage and then getting it past the jog using the PT425 and the FEL mounted receiver. If can master that, then doing that with a tandem axle trailer should not be a problem. Then I can put the boat in storage and go pick it up to go fishing between jobs!
I agree its much easier to back things up if you're facing them instead of backing them up with a vehicle. We always had a front hitch on our farm tractors to place pull type equipment into very tight spots (they also kept brush off the radiator area).
My boat trailer has about 2" clearance to each side of my garage door and its an angled approach. Its a diifficult backing situation and I usually end up a little bit on my neighbor's turf before I get it through the opening. I'll definitely be using the PT425 with the FEL mounted receiver to back it into the garage.
To get it to the back of my basement garage requires a bit of a jog and that's where moving a tandem axle by hand is a problem.
I'll see if I can master both getting the boat into the garage and then getting it past the jog using the PT425 and the FEL mounted receiver. If can master that, then doing that with a tandem axle trailer should not be a problem. Then I can put the boat in storage and go pick it up to go fishing between jobs!
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