Pallets & Racks for attachment storage (not a fork discussion).

[Underdog57]

Lol, what's this?
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Love it!!!!! LOL :laughing:

 

[Bullwinkle123]

A shim?:laughing:

Is that because you haven't bolted the uprights to the floor?

I have an issue there because the genius who designed my garage put in radiant heat. Never used it, probably never will (since it's presently heated by a distant propane-fed boiler), but don't want to wreck it by sinking bolts into the wrong place. So wall ties or ... shims ... for me probably, if necessary.

 

[dstig1]

Your picture certainly looks something like I was thinking of. It looks like your entire fork fits underneath the shelf, what are the rack dimensions?

I don't think I would ever try to stand my rotary cutter up. At 745 pounds that sounds like a good way to kill myself, or at least break a lot of stuff!

The rack is 48" deep, as are the forks. I think it is 12' long, but I'm not 100% on that. I screwed mine to the wall because I am a genius that put radiant tubing in the slab BTW it is the best heat for a shop, the only real downside is you can't drill into the floor - or you have to plan ahead when you lay the tubing out to leave gaps where you need them.

If you were to even think about standing up the cutter, it would obviously be using the forks and straps or chains, and then putting it on a custom made dolly/rack. Not much different than lifting anything heavy, but i can see not wanting the hassle of it.

You can assemble pallet racking solo, but it is enormously easier with 2 people, BTW. Getting that first crossbar in place can be a real juggling act solo.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

The rack is 48" deep, as are the forks. I think it is 12' long, but I'm not 100% on that. I screwed mine to the wall because I am a genius that put radiant tubing in the slab BTW it is the best heat for a shop, the only real downside is you can't drill into the floor - or you have to plan ahead when you lay the tubing out to leave gaps where you need them.

If you were to even think about standing up the cutter, it would obviously be using the forks and straps or chains, and then putting it on a custom made dolly/rack. Not much different than lifting anything heavy, but i can see not wanting the hassle of it.

You can assemble pallet racking solo, but it is enormously easier with 2 people, BTW. Getting that first crossbar in place can be a real juggling act solo.

Thanks for the info. I cleared out my garage today, time to order some racks.

Re: radiant heat. Sounds like your experience is better than mine. All my radiant heat stories in my current house are basically nightmares. In fact I just had the plumber pulling inexplicable gunk out of three radiant zones in the living area last week.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

So having cleared my garage of most stuff, planning for pallet racks, I'm left with one corner of garden-ish hand tools that needs to move. Rakes, snow shovels, spades, mattocks, event a cant hook and a pickaroon. Need to find a new home for them, sure would be nice if there were some way to store them on the new pallet racks. Putting them front to back flat on a shelf is just a way to lose an eye. Right now, in their "tool corner", some hang on the wall, many just lean against the wall.

I'm wondering if something similar to this (see link) could be a solution. Leave off the wire mesh on a section of my racks and put something like this in. I can't tell from the picture if they're really designed to hang on the beam of a pallet rack or not.

Tool Holders and Pallet Rack Divider Arms

As is, those tool-store types of things aren't really good though, since they're meant to hold uniform items where taking the front tool is sufficient, not for grabbing a random tool in a line of them. But maybe there's useful variations on the idea. Certainly some prospective welding projects hiding in there.

Googling for various terms hasn't turned up much for me beyond this one site. I suppose it's possible to drop some tools with no handles on them right down through wire mesh, but not easy if the shelf is high and/or another shelf is too close to it.

Of course if I leave the mesh off I could stand some of the taller tools inside the beams of the rack, on the floor. So maybe no special hanging brackets are required. Messy though, tools'll be falling all over the place if I'm grabbing one.

Hmmm, maybe just a cross bar (such as those that line the underside of wire mesh shelving), and brackets hanging off the beam. 2-3 tools to a cross bar, 3 cross bars to a 4 foot rack/beam width. ("cross bar" being a the steel which goes front to back between two beams connecting uprights, a.k.a. "pallet support")

Ideas?

 

[Peter 315]

Just make or buy some hooks and hang them on the wall , You will only have maybe 3 of the same tool on each hook that's how its done in my garage ...

 

[Bullwinkle123]

Just make or buy some hooks and hang them on the wall , You will only have maybe 3 of the same tool on each hook that's how its done in my garage ...

I'm losing wall space to make room for the tractor and the pallet racks.

Meanwhile, I'm thinking of some kind of hooks that fit the racks, like this fancy ascii graphics image captured because TBN won't let me put spaces in my posts.

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[Peter 315]

I'm losing wall space to make room for the tractor and the pallet racks.

Meanwhile, I'm thinking of some kind of hooks that fit the racks, like this fancy ascii graphics image captured because TBN won't let me put spaces in my posts.

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Link won"t work

 

[Bullwinkle123]

Second try using "advanced" "attachments" options.

 

[Peter 315]

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Second try using "advanced" "attachments" options.

This is my wall...

 

[Bullwinkle123]

This is my wall...View attachment 646708View attachment 646710View attachment 646711

Nice. My existing tool wall looks like a poor man's version of that. The problem is that I'm losing my wall space as part of making room for tractor and attachments, so I was trying to hatch ideas for how to store tools within the to-be-built rack space. I could definitely allot some of the 24' of rack width for tools if there were a good way to hang them. I'm liking my conceptual (ascii graphics) picture above, I think, only I'm not sure what kinds existing clamps would fit the beams and cross bars, or whether I'll have to fabricate my own, and what they would look like.

 

[Peter 315]

I think you will have to make your own...

 

[Peter 315]

Or hooks like this and bolt on....https://www.amazon.com/Garage-Storage-Hooks-Extended-Organizer/dp/B07H84CTBP

 

[Bullwinkle123]

Or hooks like this and bolt on....https://www.amazon.com/Garage-Storage-Hooks-Extended-Organizer/dp/B07H84CTBP

Heh, nothing says tool hangers have to be steel, no doubt I'll prototype something ugly out of 2x4's or 2x6's. I think I will order at least one less wire deck than would normally fill the space to experiment with tool hanging options on the rack. After all, we're talking about something approaching 16 square feet of hanging area, plus I want the tools near the tractor. Meanwhile thanks for all the ideas and advice.

Should I even bother with the wire decks? I was kind of assuming I could still set big-ish things on them that aren't on pallets (e.g. 5 gallon buckets) if they weren't too heavy, but maybe that's wrong and I'm going to have just put in pallet supports under plywood? (I know one of you uses plywood with mdf, did you have wire decking under that?).

 

[dstig1]

Wire racks allow you to be less precise with placing pallets. This helps if your pallets are not to spec, or if you don't have a straight shot, or a good forklift... Or if you have other oddball things to store. Fork usage with a FEL is nowhere near as easy or precise as with a forklift. Plus experience. You don't have to paper the world with them, but they are useful in spots.

 

[jmc]

Interesting thread, good ideas and pictures. I bought the racking to do this same thing, stored them against the barn, and they're still out there. This thread might get the project going again.

Agree with dstig1 @ #11 about picking up with pallets rather than directly with a SSQA on a tractor. I can see me "chasing" the implement backward into the barn wall with either system but worse with the SSQA technique.

To get a taller target for the forks, I will make skids consisting of a solid plywood top with 4x6 skid rails on edge. Hopefully the roughly 4 inch wide rails will be stable without bottom support cross members- less obstruction if my forks aren't quite horizontal. And a solid top instead of cross boards should be less for the fork tips to catch on.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

I traded emails with sjf.com today to get a quote. Unfortunately their MA depot is new stuff only and he said shipping was likely prohibitive and didn't actually give me a quote, so still waiting on that.
Sent an email to brentwood surplus too, no word back.

While googling, Home Depot turned up. The closest I could come to my 12' beams and 10' uprights was 108" beams and 8' uprights. The wire decks were powder coated too (more expensive than galvanized). And of course ... no used pricing. It was $18xx shipped. Ouch. Don't think so. But the shipping portion was only like $50, compared with the $300+ sjf said I was probably looking at. (Plus more for residential address).

Have an inquiry out to a craigslist post too. If it's going to cost me $1800+ for 24' of rack, I may just build one very small rack out of wood for three attachments (one on floor) and go back to the idea of building a new shed/barn. Here's hoping brentwood (in NH) and sdf (in MA) get back to me with something better. I'm thinking $1800 buys a lot of cement (not really, a shed will will be expensive, a barn even more so, but I've decided my old barn may on its last legs, literally, so may have an excuse to replace it).

 

[dstig1]

Yeah CL is your friend for this stuff. I used CL for my first buy and SJF for my second, as they are only an hour and a half away from me.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

I was going to build a rack in my barn 10ft wide 10 ft deep about 12ft high to store my mower, rotary cutter and box blade on.

Then I got lazy and just leave it in the pasture.

You could probably build something on 4x4 post under $500

 

[ddbackhoe]

Nice. My existing tool wall looks like a poor man's version of that. The problem is that I'm losing my wall space as part of making room for tractor and attachments, so I was trying to hatch ideas for how to store tools within the to-be-built rack space. I could definitely allot some of the 24' of rack width for tools if there were a good way to hang them. I'm liking my conceptual (ascii graphics) picture above, I think, only I'm not sure what kinds existing clamps would fit the beams and cross bars, or whether I'll have to fabricate my own, and what they would look like.

You could scour some job sites and look for PVC pipe cut-offs. They make nice long handled tool holders (think golf clubs). A wooden box works too but you’d have to build that.