Particulate filter delete

[rScotty]

Data linking diesel exhaust has been around for decades. Including early studies from the London bus garages.

You can’t put your head in the sand and ignore science.

Yes you can. Look around....lots of people can and do ignore science and history. And especially when science conflicts with traditional beliefs. Then which one to accept becomes a difficult choice.
rScotty

 

[1010]

Data linking diesel exhaust has been around for decades. Including early studies from the London bus garages.

You can稚 put your head in the sand and ignore science.

Data is easily influenced for the desired outcome.. Any exhaust in an confined space will kill.. Nothing new there..

 

[Oldoak]

Data is easily influenced for the desired outcome.. Any exhaust in an confined space will kill.. Nothing new there..

Intellect DOES prevail after all.

 

[rScotty]

Data is easily influenced for the desired outcome.. Any exhaust in an confined space will kill.. Nothing new there..

Yep, that's sure a good point about date being "influenced" and even changed. You have to do your homework these days. Manipulating data has become so common in politics, finance, and advertising that like a lot of other scientists I no longer pay attention to "data" based conclusions drawn from any of those groups.

However, that caveat doesn't apply in the purely scientific community where manipulating data is very rare. It's rare because sharing pure data and conclusions drawn from that data is the very foundation of scientific work. Among scientists anything new or unusual is automatically controversial and so it always draws a lot attention from other scientists. Manipulating data for any reason is naturally enough the first thing to look at and is in fact would be very easy to spot. Most of what inquisitive scientists are looking for are mistakes in math, statistics, or conclusions though - not deliberate manipulation. Deliberately manipulating data would ruin a scientist's reputation faster than anything that I can think of.

But as rare as it is for scientists to manipulate data in their own work, it does seem to be commonplace in other fields - especially when the data touches anything political.
rScotty

 

[CincyFlyer]

Greets all.
Looks like I'm buying my brother in laws L3301 Kubota which is only a year old and he can't make the payments. My little Allis Chalmbers 5020 is just too light weight for the jobs that need to be done here.
My experience is only with older tractors so I started doing some research and almost fell out of my chair when I found that this diesel tractor are equipped with DPF devices now!~!! WTH!! So my first course of action will be to remove/disable it somehow.

So you'll violate federal law and void the warranty in one fell swoop! Why not just run the thing? Clean air is nice, and DPFs have been used for year with no huge issues.
One thing to check: make sure that the loan gets paid off and the lien cancelled. You can view most states' UCC forms online.

 

[finn1]

Data is easily influenced for the desired outcome.. Any exhaust in an confined space will kill.. Nothing new there..

Some people believe the earth is flat. If you are leaning towards that belief, even a little bit, I can’t help you much, I guess.

 

[Oldoak]

So you'll violate federal law and void the warranty in one fell swoop! Why not just run the thing? Clean air is nice, and DPFs have been used for year with no huge issues.
One thing to check: make sure that the loan gets paid off and the lien cancelled. You can view most states' UCC forms online.

Quit overly dramatic! I guess you weren't around yet, when thousands of people gutted their catalytic converters when they were first mandated as part of the exhaust systems on our vehicles by the federal government.

 

[LouNY]

And we didn't even realize how valuable the broken out pieces where that we threw away :drink:

 

[finn1]

Quit overly dramatic! I guess you weren't around yet, when thousands of people gutted their catalytic converters when they were first mandated as part of the exhaust systems on our vehicles by the federal government.

They gutted them so they could continue to use the old, cheaper (at the time) leaded fuel.

The leaded fuel that rotted out their exhaust systems, fouled their spark plugs, and made their kids stupid through lead poisoning.

 

[TexasBoy]

They gutted them so they could continue to use the old, cheaper (at the time) leaded fuel.

The leaded fuel that rotted out their exhaust systems, fouled their spark plugs, and made their kids stupid through lead poisoning.

Tetraethyllead lead is an awesome lubricant, cools valves and helped prevent detonation also.

Having smart kids is over-rated.