Pat's Easy Change Pat's Easy Change System..ANY downside???
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HomeBrew2
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
May need to shorten a PTO shaft.
May not work with a 3PH backhoe.
May need to shorten a PTO shaft.
May not work with a 3PH backhoe.
Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
Homebrew, don't you mean "lengthen" the pto shaft? I had to on my tiller as it pulled apart after installing Pat's.
The system is well worth the $$$ in my opinion--makes installation/removal so much easier.
Ron
Homebrew, don't you mean "lengthen" the pto shaft? I had to on my tiller as it pulled apart after installing Pat's.
The system is well worth the $$$ in my opinion--makes installation/removal so much easier.
Ron
BillG_in_TX
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
I had to get a PTO extension for my rotary cutter. Here's a link to a previous discussion on the subject. Not a specific drawback to Pat's, but in general for all quick-change hitches that put the implement further away from the PTO shaft.
I had to get a PTO extension for my rotary cutter. Here's a link to a previous discussion on the subject. Not a specific drawback to Pat's, but in general for all quick-change hitches that put the implement further away from the PTO shaft.
HomeBrew2
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
Yep, thanks for the correction Ron ... I had my thoughts confused with adding an o/r clutch which I installed at the same time as Pat's.
Chrres!
Yep, thanks for the correction Ron ... I had my thoughts confused with adding an o/r clutch which I installed at the same time as Pat's.
Chrres!
jmckelvy
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
Is anyone using this device on a JD 4310? I am interested in buying one but I am not sure it will fit on my 3 pt hitch lift arms. Information on Pat's web site states "Requires approximately 4" of straight arm". My tractor does not meet this requirement. The lift arms angle in almost immediately. I emailed Pat's and the reply was that it would work but I am still somewhat skeptical. Can anyone confirm this?
Jim
Is anyone using this device on a JD 4310? I am interested in buying one but I am not sure it will fit on my 3 pt hitch lift arms. Information on Pat's web site states "Requires approximately 4" of straight arm". My tractor does not meet this requirement. The lift arms angle in almost immediately. I emailed Pat's and the reply was that it would work but I am still somewhat skeptical. Can anyone confirm this?
Jim
mikim
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
I've got the same thing going on with my TC45. I've got the adjustable arms and don't have those 4" either. I emailed Pat's with the same question, got the same answer, but have the same skepticism. Hope someone here can give us a good answer. I doubt Pat's would give us any trouble returning it if it didn't work ... I'd just hate to go through the time & trouble -- if I lived where my tractor lives I would - but it's 3 hours away which makes doing anything on it just that much more of a problem. And... when I'm there I need to be on the seat - getting the work done .. I only have weekends available.
I've got the same thing going on with my TC45. I've got the adjustable arms and don't have those 4" either. I emailed Pat's with the same question, got the same answer, but have the same skepticism. Hope someone here can give us a good answer. I doubt Pat's would give us any trouble returning it if it didn't work ... I'd just hate to go through the time & trouble -- if I lived where my tractor lives I would - but it's 3 hours away which makes doing anything on it just that much more of a problem. And... when I'm there I need to be on the seat - getting the work done .. I only have weekends available.
Michael_C
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
I just purchased a Gearmore quick hitch (GQH) instead of Pat's. I had been leaning towards Pat's at first, but decided against it. The primary reason was Pat's only dealt with the lower arms, which meant I would lose some adjustment capability in my upper link - the quick hitch would effectively "extended" the lower arms by about 3-4". I wasn't sure if going with Pat's would be a problem lining up since the lower arm spacing was dictated by whatever the stabilizer's could provide. The Gearmore had fixed spacing which matched up fine for my implements. I also like that it picks up all three points on the implements at the same time.
I just purchased a Gearmore quick hitch (GQH) instead of Pat's. I had been leaning towards Pat's at first, but decided against it. The primary reason was Pat's only dealt with the lower arms, which meant I would lose some adjustment capability in my upper link - the quick hitch would effectively "extended" the lower arms by about 3-4". I wasn't sure if going with Pat's would be a problem lining up since the lower arm spacing was dictated by whatever the stabilizer's could provide. The Gearmore had fixed spacing which matched up fine for my implements. I also like that it picks up all three points on the implements at the same time.
jhortonvt
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
I just ordered mine today from Northern tool ($169.99). I added a couple things on to get the free S/H (orders over $200).
I went back and forth on it vs the John Deere Imatch. Which I decided against b/c it didn't have an adjustable top link hook, so people said they had to remove it quite often for non JD (or non Imatch compatible) attachments.
So then I thought about Speeco's quick attach and ended up deciding against it b/c despite the fact that you can adjust the top link hook people still said it didn't necessarily fit all their attachments, and they occasionaly had to remove it.
So I went with what seems to be the only quick attach unit that people never mentioned having to remove in order to attach an implement. Having to hook up the top link every time seemed like a small drawback-as that is the easy one.
BTW, I have the 4310 and despite what the specs say everyone seems to agree that it will fit. I will let you know...
I just ordered mine today from Northern tool ($169.99). I added a couple things on to get the free S/H (orders over $200).
I went back and forth on it vs the John Deere Imatch. Which I decided against b/c it didn't have an adjustable top link hook, so people said they had to remove it quite often for non JD (or non Imatch compatible) attachments.
So then I thought about Speeco's quick attach and ended up deciding against it b/c despite the fact that you can adjust the top link hook people still said it didn't necessarily fit all their attachments, and they occasionaly had to remove it.
So I went with what seems to be the only quick attach unit that people never mentioned having to remove in order to attach an implement. Having to hook up the top link every time seemed like a small drawback-as that is the easy one.
BTW, I have the 4310 and despite what the specs say everyone seems to agree that it will fit. I will let you know...
Michael_C
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Re: Pat\'s Easy Change System..ANY downside???
Keith,
I purchased the Gearmore GQH-1 quick hitch from a local Kubota dealer for $230. They had suggested I go with the Cat 1 unit even though the L5030 is equipped with Cat 2 arms. All my implements are Cat 1, so this seemed reasonable, but may not have been the best decision. The ball of the upper link is an 1/8" wider than the space on the quick hitch, but bolting on a couple 1/4" adapter plates (marked "A" in the attached photo) to the outside gave me plenty of room. This wouldn't be an issue if I had a Cat 1 three point, or if I purchased the Gearmore Cat 2 quick hitch (I believe it was an additional $100). By adding the adapter plates, I lose a little adjustment, but this is in a direction where I have plenty to spare. The Gearmore uses oversized bushings which costs $20/set - one set comes with the quick hitch. Cost at this level (under $300) isn't as big an issue with me as having a solution that works.
I've marked 3 other parts on the attached picture - "B", "C" and "D".
"B" shows the upper link "hook";
"C" is the lever to control the lower latch
"D" shows the lower latch.
Michael
Keith,
I purchased the Gearmore GQH-1 quick hitch from a local Kubota dealer for $230. They had suggested I go with the Cat 1 unit even though the L5030 is equipped with Cat 2 arms. All my implements are Cat 1, so this seemed reasonable, but may not have been the best decision. The ball of the upper link is an 1/8" wider than the space on the quick hitch, but bolting on a couple 1/4" adapter plates (marked "A" in the attached photo) to the outside gave me plenty of room. This wouldn't be an issue if I had a Cat 1 three point, or if I purchased the Gearmore Cat 2 quick hitch (I believe it was an additional $100). By adding the adapter plates, I lose a little adjustment, but this is in a direction where I have plenty to spare. The Gearmore uses oversized bushings which costs $20/set - one set comes with the quick hitch. Cost at this level (under $300) isn't as big an issue with me as having a solution that works.
I've marked 3 other parts on the attached picture - "B", "C" and "D".
"B" shows the upper link "hook";
"C" is the lever to control the lower latch
"D" shows the lower latch.
Michael
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