Perimeter fencing pasture

/ Perimeter fencing pasture #81  
This is around the base of my kitties feeding tables plugged into the wall (mains)! Raccoons have changed there minds about fighting and stealing the cats food anymore!

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No more Mr Nice Guy after they killed one of my cats! I put up the hardware cloth around the base where they were climbing up, and hooked it directly to the earth ground!

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I even strung the wires up in the rafters to foil those crafty bandits! Hardware cloth is also grounded!

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This is on a battery powered unit with a small solar backup ...

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Keeps the deer and raccoons away from my little orchard!

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/ Perimeter fencing pasture #82  
Did you ever try one or two electric wires in addition to your fence. I remember when I was a kid, we moved cattle to corn fields in the fall after the corn was picked. We used one strand of electric fence for temporary fencing. Very seldom did a cow escape, usually if they were spooked by deer. The cattle would learn about the wire and the perimeter very quickly and a lot of fencing was unnecessary.
I'm using high tensile electric wire for my horses and it's worked good for 28 years. I do need to replace some of the wood posts that have rotted, no animal has ever touched them.
I have considered that. Not sure how much it would cost just to get power to the pasture, since it is not close to where I need it.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #83  
I have considered that. Not sure how much it would cost just to get power to the pasture, since it is not close to where I need it.
There are some good solar fencing options
 
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/ Perimeter fencing pasture #84  
Tractor Supply always seems to be the most expensive place to buy stuff. Lowes and Home Depot also sell posts here. And there are other Hardware stores just out of town that are usually cheaper if I want to drive half an hour. I've found the best prices by going to Facebook Marketplace and putting in a keyword like "post" "fence Post" "treated post" or "round post" and see what shows up. Then click and find out who is selling it. Usually when I find the best price, its listed by somebody working at a smaller Hardware type store that I never knew existed.

Earlier this year I learned about a new store out by the airport that sells 7/16 OSB for $9 while Lowes has it for $16. Their treated 2x6x16's are $4 less then Lowes and their 8 footers are $2 less!!!
I've priced Lowe's and Home depot for t posts. The price here is always about the same. The Tractor Supply I frequent has some items cheaper than other Tractor Supply stores because they have to compete with the new Atwoods that opened a couple years ago. Example.. range cubes are $2 cheaper at that Tractor Supply than the other Tractor Supply stores within 30 minutes of me.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #85  
To me, it seems like more work just hauling the drill from T post to T post. I use the Clip Bender. I think it's fast and easy.


Dang I gotta get one of those.
 
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#86  
Only took a week and a half to hear back, but learned today the fencing contractor uses OK Brand for their woven horse fence. The class 1 version of course. I asked if they can get the class 3 but it looks like I'm back in the "we'll get back to you in a week or two" queue :/
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #87  
I've priced Lowe's and Home depot for t posts. The price here is always about the same. The Tractor Supply I frequent has some items cheaper than other Tractor Supply stores because they have to compete with the new Atwoods that opened a couple years ago. Example.. range cubes are $2 cheaper at that Tractor Supply than the other Tractor Supply stores within 30 minutes of me.
i just bought 50 t post from tractor supply...and was knocked flat. there actually made in USA
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #88  
I've priced Lowe's and Home depot for t posts. The price here is always about the same. The Tractor Supply I frequent has some items cheaper than other Tractor Supply stores because they have to compete with the new Atwoods that opened a couple years ago. Example.. range cubes are $2 cheaper at that Tractor Supply than the other Tractor Supply stores within 30 minutes of me.
The SRO I used to work with gave me this bit of advice about that:

'Atwoods and TSC are so similar, you need to check them both when you're trying to save money. Between sales and bundles, the answer is never as simple as one always being cheaper.'

Most of the towns around me have a TSC. Only one nearby Atwoods. One of the TSC stores always has higher prices that the others nearby. Check the websites. Sometimes, driving a different direction can save a bunch.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #89  
The SRO I used to work with gave me this bit of advice about that:

'Atwoods and TSC are so similar, you need to check them both when you're trying to save money. Between sales and bundles, the answer is never as simple as one always being cheaper.'

Most of the towns around me have a TSC. Only one nearby Atwoods. One of the TSC stores always has higher prices that the others nearby. Check the websites. Sometimes, driving a different direction can save a bunch.
You know, they both price match. At least TSC does, I assume Atwoods does too. But not on internet sales at TSC.
 
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One of the TSC stores always has higher prices that the others nearby. Check the websites. Sometimes, driving a different direction can save a bunch.

This is very true of the Ace Hardware stores around here.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #91  
I have goats and goats are famous for escaping. I also have horses, so I wanted a fence that was horse safe. And worse of all, there are tons of wild hogs where I live, so keeping them out was a huge priority. I went with 2x4 horse fencing. I started with Red Brand because they had the best price before Covid at Lowes with my military discount. After Covid, they went way up in price, so I bought OK Brand.

I wanted Class 3 galvanized fencing, but couldn't find it, and when I did see it online, it was crazy expensive. Class 1 is expensive enough!!!

I have a 12-inch auger. I'm a Contractor that does a lot of repairs for homeowners. I'm convinced that the only way to keep a wooden post from rotting in the ground is to set it in concrete with the concrete coming up above the ground, so standing water isn't able to touch the wood. I've never pounded posts into the ground, and I don't know if water will sit next to the post after it rains. Backfilling a hole with dirt is the very worse way to set a post and the fastest to rot.

My wood posts are every 100 feet or less. My T-Posts are every ten feet or less. I use a Mansaver T-Post pounder to set my T-Posts. It runs off of a small pancake air compressor that I power from my little Honda Generator.

You want straight lines for fencing. The longer the line the better. Bends and turns require additional bracing, which is more work and more money.

Everything starts at the corners. Anywhere the fence turns, it's a corner. I set those posts first. Then I stretch barbed wire from the base of each post to create my straight line. I measure off for my wood line posts and set them. Then I measure for my T-Posts and install them.

Handling and unrolling the horse fence was my biggest challenge. I built a way to do this using my pallet forks and hay forks. Then I use two come alongs to pull the wire tight.

I'm at the point that it's pretty easy to build the fence by myself. I'm 60 years old and fairly active in decent shape. What takes me the most time and is the most work is clearing the trees. I won't do any fencing if I can't drive and mow along the side of it. Fortunately, when doing my property line, my neighbor felt the same way and allowed me to remove all his trees that I wanted removed.

Trees hate fences. They will attack and destroy a fence if they can. The only way to avoid tree damage is to remove the trees!!!

My fence is goat proof, hog proof and horse safe.


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Grandad always said the perfect fence was pig tight and goat high.
 
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Only took a week and a half to hear back, but learned today the fencing contractor uses OK Brand for their woven horse fence. The class 1 version of course. I asked if they can get the class 3 but it looks like I'm back in the "we'll get back to you in a week or two" queue :/

Finally got an answer after talking to the owner. They can order the class 3 version, no additional charge.

I had to push quite a bit and send them the product #/info, so I guess most people don't look for/ask for that? Or perhaps those that care about such details do the fence themselves vs hiring it out?
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #93  
For the same money you're getting a much higher quality fence. Seems odd that they don't offer that with every fence the do.
 
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For the same money you're getting a much higher quality fence. Seems odd that they don't offer that with every fence the do.

Agreed.

I've been finding this with pretty much everything we've done on this property though. Always asking for a product that you would expect to be a default option, then hearing they're now using it as the default.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #95  
Grandad always said the perfect fence was pig tight and goat high.
My dad always said the perfect fence was one that livestock never touched. An electric fence makes a perfect fence. I remember when I was a kid, the neighbor had cattle and he was stingy with hay in the fall. It didn't take long for those cattle to smash that woven wire down trying to get to our corn crop since he didn't use electric fence. It didn't seem fair that we maintained the right side of the fence line and his cattle were destroying it. My dad had some words with him and the cattle were moved. Our cattle never touched our fence because we used electric fence in our pastures.
 
/ Perimeter fencing pasture #96  
Re post #80, that kind of power in a hot fence is, to me, excessive unless you are educating bulls. I only run 6kv in my hot fence and it kept the cattle in. Biggest problem was branches on the fence.
Hot fence tip: "Sealskins" and Line 7 "Aqua flex" leggings let you climb over a live hot fence without getting zapped.
Don't try it with Goretex.
 

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