Planning to buy soon

[Hunter8282]

Hi all,
New here. Last year we moved to our 80 acres and built a house. I am going on 50 years old. On the docket this spring is a tractor to help make the work easier.

Uses for tractor would be land management, gardening, wood cutting, food plots, field clearing, animal care (goats, chickens, etc.), snow removal, two track/trail maintenance, and eventually maybe even some crop work down the road or a hay field and cutting/bailing. I could have about 30-35 acres of tillable on our land with some work, the rest is wooded/swampy. 4x4, cab, and loader is a must. I am not sure what else to add but I'll try to answer any questions asap.

I don't intend to make a living doing anything of these things. More of retirement hobby.

I do NOT want to buy a tractor that is too small or one that is too large to get into the woods when needed.

I talked to a local Kioti dealer and his recommendation was a NS4710HB w/ cab w/ loader at a price of $40.5K.

I guess I am also interested in Mahindra but not sure on a specific tractor. There is also a Kubota and Massey Furgeson dealer nearby, but I think I've ruled on Kubota and JD just because of the premium price.

What brands (Kioti, Mahindra, TYM, Branson, Massey, Case IH, New Holland, Yanmar etc.) would you recommend or definitely avoid and if you have specific models that would be great as well.

I think I just want to go new to take advantage of 0% financing and I don't want an old tractor that constantly needs tinkering to keep it operational.

Thanks. Look forward to the conversation.

 

[SARG]

I have two New Holland machines now .... but if I go for another it will be a Kubota.

 

[big bubba]

welcome to this forum.
given your descriptions (& looking toward unseen tasks) sounds like you would do well with 50-60 hp Utility (esp if you intend ground engagement tasks). A larger frame tractor is also more stable on slopes. cabs get pricey

cabs are great for creature comforts, but vulnerable in the woods. my advice would be to take your time & make an informed decision, rather than being caught up in the buying frenzy. & look to those unseen future tasks. in addition, a spin around the dealership lot is a poor simulation of working field conditions. regards

 

[alexpops]

I like my LS, but with current supply chain issues, might pass on that for the immediate future. Advantage is if it crosses to a NH model, most of the parts can be had cheaper by adding MT to front of the part number. (you might need to do the work yourself as you would probably fall to bottom of the list at any non-LS dealer for work)

 

[Hunter8282]

I like my LS, but with current supply chain issues, might pass on that for the immediate future. Advantage is if it crosses to a NH model, most of the parts can be had cheaper by adding MT to front of the part number. (you might need to do the work yourself as you would probably fall to bottom of the list at any non-LS dealer for work)

Sorry it will take me a bit to learn the lingo... LS, NH, MT mean what?

And what brand are you referring to?

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

Welcome aboard. Lots of good knowledge on here.

I have a similar sized kioti tractor. Love it. I bought larger than I thought I needed but like you not so large it impedes me from doing what i want.

Only thing I think I would have done different is get Ag tires instead of R4's. No real problems mind you but I wondered if the ag tires would get me a little better traction in those harder soils I have to contend with.

While not a mechanic I do my own maint and most repairs on mine. I would strongly urge you to get the service manual that helps find "stuff" for the inevitable time something comes up. I sure whish I had gotten one. But it only took me 12 ish years to understand it. (search forums for PTO not working, turned out to be a relay, thanks again grsgreat! for sharing a page from his manual).

I put on the third function. I am sure your dealer can put one on for you for your grapple.

Mine came with a set of rear remotes. I have thought about adding a second set to mine. It would be nice to use my hydraulic top link with my sliding flail mower.

Think about what 3pt hitch tools you may want in the future and get it ready up front. I saw their prices for their attachments, some seem pricey to me. Check around for other retailers for your needs.

 

[scootr]

Went Kubota because I wanted a company with the best track record. Bought used because I didn't want a payment.

 

[rScotty]

Went Kubota because I wanted a company with the best track record. Bought used because I didn't want a payment.

That says it all.

 

[Tractorable]

If not Kubota or JD, the Yanmar YT359 with the iHMT is one of the nicest machines out there. 10 year power train warranty too.

 

[mulitweed]

Hi all,
New here. Last year we moved to our 80 acres and built a house. I am going on 50 years old. On the docket this spring is a tractor to help make the work easier.

Uses for tractor would be land management, gardening, wood cutting, food plots, field clearing, animal care (goats, chickens, etc.), snow removal, two track/trail maintenance, and eventually maybe even some crop work down the road or a hay field and cutting/bailing. I could have about 30-35 acres of tillable on our land with some work, the rest is wooded/swampy. 4x4, cab, and loader is a must. I am not sure what else to add but I'll try to answer any questions asap.

I don't intend to make a living doing anything of these things. More of retirement hobby.

I do NOT want to buy a tractor that is too small or one that is too large to get into the woods when needed.

I talked to a local Kioti dealer and his recommendation was a NS4710HB w/ cab w/ loader at a price of $40.5K.

I guess I am also interested in Mahindra but not sure on a specific tractor. There is also a Kubota and Massey Furgeson dealer nearby, but I think I've ruled on Kubota and JD just because of the premium price.

What brands (Kioti, Mahindra, TYM, Branson, Massey, Case IH, New Holland, Yanmar etc.) would you recommend or definitely avoid and if you have specific models that would be great as well.

I think I just want to go new to take advantage of 0% financing and I don't want an old tractor that constantly needs tinkering to keep it operational.

Thanks. Look forward to the conversation.

what is the climate where you are ? Ive heard tym dont work well in the cold

 

[Hunter8282]

what is the climate where you are ? Ive heard tym dont work well in the cold

I am in central West MI. It's cold here in the winter (Nov - Mar).

 

[big bubba]

OP: at your early stages of purchasing, decide exactly what your present & future needs are, decide on a model with appropriate weight/hp, then look at name brands many will suggest here, & take your time, keep in mind resale value too

 

[mulitweed]

I am in central West MI. It's cold here in the winter (Nov - Mar).

ok im in northern North Dakota , neighbor had a tym lots of problems, no parts service , and didnt run well in the cold

 

[alexpops]

Sorry it will take me a bit to learn the lingo... LS, NH, MT mean what?

And what brand are you referring to?

LS IS the brand. Before marketing under their own name in the US, they built tractors for other brands Case and New Holland (maybe others) -- think of the relationship between FoxConn and Apple for an example. LS used to be part of the LG conglomerate before it was spun off as a separate entity/name. Yes the same LG as your fridge.

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NH is New Holland, another brand name, But LS actually makes/made some of the WorkMaster and Boomer models

MT is a two letter code added to the LS part number to cross reference to a New Holland part number (also some Case part numbers for the tractors made for Case that are actually built by LS)

 

[dodge man]

Everybody pushes what they own it seems. Just my opinion also but JD and Kubota are at the top of the heap. The best support and parts availability. They have problems just like anything else though. I’ve owned both. I think Kioti would be my next choice. I’ve never owned one but have looked them over and always thought the looked solid and well designed.

 

[RjCorazza]

It's only natural to recommend what one has experience with... Both good and bad. It is easy to slip into blind brand loyalty though.
I have had exceptional service from Kubota machines... L4060, L3410, B8200, and mowers (ZD326, 331, 1211). What I have noticed over the years is that many (previously) lesser known brands have become popular, and have developed good reputations.
I don't think you can go wrong on any of the brands mentioned by the OP. My only suggestion on brand would be to avoid used orphaned tractors, or those likely to be orphaned. Mostly the Chinese manufacturers with cool American names.

 

[ning]

Perhaps you should buy a tractor to do what you know you'll need a tractor for - which is most of that list - and one for what is "maybe later" like the ground engaging (more farming type stuff).

I think these are likely two different tractors; the first is a medium-ish tractor like the Kioti or something else in the 35-50hp range (size will affect use in woods, and the weight may affect squishy ground) that you buy now, and the second you'd buy if and when you decide to do proper farming could be a much more utilitarian "just for farming" tractor, quite possibly a used one, cab optional (idk what your summers are like, and I doubt you'd need the farm tractor for winter).

 

[Hunter8282]

LS IS the brand. Before marketing under their own name in the US, they built tractors for other brands Case and New Holland (maybe others) -- think of the relationship between FoxConn and Apple for an example. LS used to be part of the LG conglomerate before it was spun off as a separate entity/name. Yes the same LG as your fridge.

Home - LS Tractor USA

We outperformed ourselves. The MT2 & MT2E Series Unleash the future of farming with the MT2 & MT2E series. Redefining excellence, it features advanced design, increased lifting capacity, and state-of-the-art technology. Elevate your agricultural experience—Explore the MT2 today for unmatched...

lstractorusa.com

NH is New Holland, another brand name, But LS actually makes/made some of the WorkMaster and Boomer models

MT is a two letter code added to the LS part number to cross reference to a New Holland part number (also some Case part numbers for the tractors made for Case that are actually built by LS)

Thanks!

 

[Hunter8282]

Perhaps you should buy a tractor to do what you know you'll need a tractor for - which is most of that list - and one for what is "maybe later" like the ground engaging (more farming type stuff).

I think these are likely two different tractors; the first is a medium-ish tractor like the Kioti or something else in the 35-50hp range (size will affect use in woods, and the weight may affect squishy ground) that you buy now, and the second you'd buy if and when you decide to do proper farming could be a much more utilitarian "just for farming" tractor, quite possibly a used one, cab optional (idk what your summers are like, and I doubt you'd need the farm tractor for winter).

That's something to certainly think about.

 

[JeepHead]

I almost went the cheaper route when I was buying. I spoke to a couple of large independent tractor shops and listened to their horror stories on the various Korean tractors and the ability to get parts for them. I tend to believe you get what you pay for usually. With Kubota I knew parts and service will always be available as there are at least 5 huge dealers within an hour of me. No regrets whatsoever. When I purchased my new ATV, I bought a Honda instead of the no name brand being sold at the local farm store for half the price. Pretty much same idea to me...