Please tell me this is not the way oil filters are made...

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What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.



It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?
Those are most likely for local use. There are a lot of fascinating YouTube vids showing raw-labor manufacturing of products such as nuts/bolts, engine blocks, stoves, motors, etc.
If you’ve watched the above video, now watch the following one showing filters made in a Fram factory. The steps are the same, the process is different. Although I don’t recall seeing “sealant” being applied to guard against leakage in the Pakistan process.
 
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The worst service I've had from oil filters is Fram. I wouldn't run them if they were free. Saw two come apart inside and suck the filter element thru the oil pump. When you tear the engine down it looks like a mouse has built a nest throughout the entire engine.

If you research it seems AC Delco has the best or almost best reputation. Wix also fairs well.
I've given up on Fram. I wonder if the high end ones are any better? AC Delco I can get but Fix is hard to find unless I get the NAPA numbered one.

For tractors, I go with OEM only. Is that wrong?
 
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NAPA & Wix are good.
 
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The following is a filter cross reference that I use quite a bit. Use discretion…..
 
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I've given up on Fram. I wonder if the high end ones are any better? AC Delco I can get but Fix is hard to find unless I get the NAPA numbered one.

For tractors, I go with OEM only. Is that wrong?
I put some faith in OEM. I use OEM when dealing with the road grader. It's under warranty and I try to not give the manufacturer an "out" if anything goes wrong. Use OEM engine oil.
 
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Some pretty interesting YouTube videos on comparing filters:


 
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I use AC Delco on my Yukon, Wix on my mower and just bought a new Tacoma and will use a Toyota filter (made by Denso) until the warranty is over. I noticed that a Toyota OEM filter was almost half the price of a Wix. But it’s hard for me to believe Toyota would use crappy filters on their products. Never used Fram, but I know folks that swear by them. Oh well, to each, his own.
 
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I’ve been buying NAPA Gold filters for several years. I used to use Fram but starting seeing bad press about them and realized they were junk. I’m not sure what I’m paying for the NAPA filter but around $14 after tax
 
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These are just the ones I had on the shelf

First one is a Kubota and made in China IMG_2807.jpgIMG_2808.jpg
 
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Kubota and IndonesiaIMG_2809.jpgIMG_2810.jpg
 
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Toyota and Thailand
Purolater and USA


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Still, I'm going to buy OEM filters because I think Kubota and Toyota are careful. Purolater is for a generator and I think a good filter.
 
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Last filter I used. Nice to see the markings on the right picture.

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By the way, Wix makes Napa oil filters. I think if you change your oil regularly then any of the major brand filters will be fine. I boils down to brand loyalty I suppose.
 
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By the way, Wix makes Napa oil filters. I think if you change your oil regularly then any of the major brand filters will be fine. I boils down to brand loyalty I suppose.
UNLESS they come apart, and too many Frams are known to have done that!

SR
 
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By the way, Wix makes Napa oil filters. I think if you change your oil regularly then any of the major brand filters will be fine. I boils down to brand loyalty I suppose.
It used to be the NAPA Gold were Wix, IIRC. Oreilleys used to carry Wix, don't know anymore. For oil and filter info, I go to 540rat's blog and Bob Is The Oil Guy.
 
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What? This can't be so, can it? I recently saw a tractor filter made in India or maybe Pakistan.



It says car filters but a lot of guys shop for crossover deals for tractors and the cheapest price so who knows what you get?
Watched a video years ago on YouTube and so guy in the States went a bought many different brands of oil filters, went home and cut them apart to measure the spring pressure and the length of the filter material. I can not remember what he said was the best filter but remember him say don't even use a Fram on a wheelbarrow
 
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I've given up on Fram. I wonder if the high end ones are any better? AC Delco I can get but Fix is hard to find unless I get the NAPA numbered one.

For tractors, I go with OEM only. Is that wrong?
orileys is about the only play I know to get wix except online.

The better fram filters are good. I have ran alot of the synthetic media "XG" fram filters and I like them.
 
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what if you don't buy the filter made in the indonesia sweatshop or wherever? They don't have a job then can't feed their family. Cost of living is much lower there, even on $2 a day and they still can buy food and housing for their family. Money in one country does not translate to another at all. It's why you can live like a millionaire in other parts of the world on your basic SS but can't even pay for heat in the US.
Who knows where they really come from? It's a dilemma for sure that we probably can't solve since we are only given so little information, and who knows if it's true?
Is your tractor made the same way? How about your phone where people are jumping out of buildings because the conditions are so horrible? Kids working the lithium mines so we can have our Ford lightnings and DeWalt tools? Seems awful if we have to cut down the forests to be green.
We don't have much of a choice in who to trust, but just hope that companies that to manufacture treat their workers well so they want to come back to work.
 

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