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Problem is Moss....when common sense says someone 50+ yrs is Way Old enough and they ask for your ID...then that is a foolish Law...and I suffer Fools and foolish laws poorly ! We are over regulating ourselves and turning out educated idiots....I talked to a friend the other day that complained about college grads. she hired to work in her store and they could not make change and I said yes, like in the past before the new computerized registers tell them how much change to give, they don't know how to count out the proper change when someone pays...She said NO ! She said " I mean when the register tells them how much change to give back...they still can't figure it out ! " How does that grab you.?:)

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Ok look at it like this. Your leaving HD and some teenager just bought liguid nail, sniffed it in the parking lot and got high. He leaves the same time you do and hits your car injuring someone. Now if they had ided him and not let him buy it he wouldnt have been there. That alone makes me glad to show my id. This was just an IF not direted at any body.

Does this happen often, has anyone heard about liquid nail abuse before this? If so what is the percentage?

Okay lets say I was a dopper, they ID'ed me, which proved to be a waste of time, I go out sniff up and still cause an accident. What good did ID'ing do?

Chances are with your above example junior probably would have been high on something either way.
 
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For those that keep saying ID'ing a 40+yr old man would help save a kid, if your that worried why not just post the KGB at the parking lot entrance and check everyone. There, problem solved and the police would have something to do besides write little old ladys tickets for crouching to low in their car :p
 
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WoW. Gotta love TBN. 13 page thread cuz 20 20 went on a little rant. Haven't we all done a rant or 2 here? This is why i love this site. Everyone gets to say something. and even if others don't agree, most of the time the disagreements are civil. Hey Ken, when you were back getting your meds, did you get some rubbers? LOL I remember when they were hidden and you had to ask the pharmicist. Old guys rock :D:D:D
 
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Does this happen often, has anyone heard about liquid nail abuse before this? If so what is the percentage?

Okay lets say I was a dopper, they ID'ed me, which proved to be a waste of time, I go out sniff up and still cause an accident. What good did ID'ing do?

Chances are with your above example junior probably would have been high on something either way.

part of the id'ing thing is liability for that exact reason. If a person is over age, hufs some glue/paint whatever, and kills themselves the store isnt liable.

If someone is underage then the liability picture becomes more complicated.

Blanket, "We ID everyone" rules prevent the cashier from having to make the "how old is this guy" call and potentially open up the store to liability.

Are you. 20 20 going to go out and sniff glue, i highly doubt it personally, however the store cant make that distinction.


This thing gets a ton more complicated when you look at meds containing ephedrine. Im in favor of any system that stops or slows the spread of meth. That includes id'ing and recording names of the people buying the precursors to the drug. (yes even coleman fuel and lithium batteries)
 
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part of the id'ing thing is liability for that exact reason. If a person is over age, hufs some glue/paint whatever, and kills themselves the store isnt liable.

If someone is underage then the liability picture becomes more complicated.

Blanket, "We ID everyone" rules prevent the cashier from having to make the "how old is this guy" call and potentially open up the store to liability.

Are you. 20 20 going to go out and sniff glue, i highly doubt it personally, however the store cant make that distinction.


This thing gets a ton more complicated when you look at meds containing ephedrine. Im in favor of any system that stops or slows the spread of meth. That includes id'ing and recording names of the people buying the precursors to the drug. (yes even coleman fuel and lithium batteries)

Well said. Its a ID everyone policy. Id one Id all keeps them in a habit of doing it everythime. Boil dwn to if you dont want to show ur id or get offended dont go there. Im only 38 years young and dont look it and im glad to show my id.
 
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Blanket, "We ID everyone" rules prevent the cashier from having to make the "how old is this guy" call and potentially open up the store to liability.
FWIW...
The cases I am familiar with it is the software that controls the cash register...if a "restricted" SKU is entered/scanned a DOB must be entered before the transaction can continue...so the cashier is supposed to check the ID and enter the DOB...if it is obvious the patron is of legal age the cahsier still has to enter a legal DOB to continue...
...in some cases where stores have reward (tracking) cards...it will remember and give the cashier the DOB of the card holder after it has been initially entered...
 
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I do wonder how many farmers here are one the goverment dole/farm subsidies...? Because then of course it's okay for big brother to be involved in your life right?

Free market would settle out over time but we do not have that choice without significant changes which won't happen with the big money lobbying... There are more to farm programs than just subsidies. Unfortunately, the programs have been justified for years to save small farms but it is the bigger ones that really pull down the government money. The sugar, tobacco, peanut and especially the corn for ethanol programs are hugh....

We are at the tipping point (just past it actually) and the events the next few months will have a large impact on the next 2 years.

20_20 is right, more folks need to stand up and be heard...
 
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*sigh* I know that, I was using hyperbole to illustrate how absurd his claim was of having his rights violated.

I do wonder how many farmers here are one the goverment dole/farm subsidies...? Because then of course it's okay for big brother to be involved in your life right?

The Government has tried to get me on since 1971 and I am having no part of it. I bought my first farm so I could be self sufficient for my family and I did not want big brother to attach any strings to my land. Ken Sweet
 
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