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Did you ask for and receive your 10% veteran discount at HD? If not , go back. They always give 10% as does Lowes. Menards only does it on Veteran's day.:thumbsup:

AND thank you for your service.

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know that :thumbsup:
 
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Please tell us what freedom it was that you gave up at HD? Convenience maybe...but I don't see any freedoms being abused. Would you feel the same if asked to show ID at a liquor store? I love it when I present a credit card and they ask for ID also. The store wishes to not sell certain items to minors. If we take away their tools for doing that, whose freedoms are then being abused? Yes, showing your ID to buy Liquid Nails or glue is a pain, but it's a loss of convenience, not a loss of freedom in my opinion.:)

This is just a general overall rant, your either not very old or don't really care about what is going on in this country, if you think we are not losing freedoms. Also just because I showed ID or not wouldn't do squat as far as going out to the parking lot cutting the tip off and shoving the tube up my nose, think about it{oh and by the way what hair I have left is gray :)}. The only ones this type of BS is annoying are those of us that aren't crack heads. Kind of like the ole saying "take guns away in this country and the only ones left with guns will be criminals."
 
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If part of this story involved someone's kid being run down by the nut strung out on methamphetamine or liquid nails, these same freedom lovers would be complaining about government's failure to regulate these products.

Just one vet shaking his head at all the silliness going on in our polity.

ID'ing is not going to stop crap, crack head, dopers etc... are going to get their fix and they're still going to be strung out.
 
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I'll add, if you take advantage of the discounts available through the use of a courtesy card at your local grocery, (the one that records all the stuff you buy every week and that you need in order to write a check) you're likely giving up lots of personal information. I never hear anyone complain about that.

Could it be most don't realize?
 
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Jim, I think the stores are IDing folks to make sure they don't sell inhalants to minors. Sure, the kids can get it somewhere else, but the stores get beat up for selling it because it was a product of their store. The only way they can positively say they did not sell to a minor is to check everyone's ID. Then, it's the fault of the person who was careless and let their kids get the glue rather than the store who sells it. Lawyers and lawsuits tend to go after the person with the deepest pockets. Can you blame them for wanting to protect themselves? Yes, it's a shame and a pain to have to deal with, but my argument would be that it is not a loss of freedom, but rather an inconvenience. Words have meaning and I think that freedom was a poor choice of words. That's all. . . :)

Jinman, I respect your point of view, but this post said exactly what I feel. Worry about $$$$$$ not losing freedoms. You are correct lawsuits and such probably would happen, and that is exactly my point. WE keep passing stupid laws to protect pockets, mean while throwing or freedoms rights{non-incoveniences} to the curb to do so.
 
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Freedom (or convenience) is in the eye of the beholder. One person's loss of freedom may result in another's gain. If preventing a young person from getting high and being dangerous on the highway allows me and my family to drive safely, I have no problem with that.

Far too much ME... ME... ME... in this society.

Can you tell me how ID'ing for liquid nails is going to stop a doper from using it? You can't, just because I showed ID didn't change anything I still could have been a crack head{NO I am not}.
 
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My $.02
Ok you already have your wallet out, whats the big deal about pulling ur ID out with your money or CC. I for one think its a good idea, it protects all of us. I like the idea you have to be 18 or over to buy certain things. Its just one step in keeping our kids, grandkids and families alittle safer. I know they will get it somewhere but it just makes it harder for them.:thumbsup:

Like I said in another post I have little hair left and what is left is gray I seriously doubt I look under 30 let alone 18.
Again you feel safer because an innocent person had to waste their time to prove their innocents, meanwhile crack head bob is down at the local school selling pretty little candy rocks to our children, don't think I feel the same, sorry. Instead of passing BS laws that only inconvience the innocent why don't we enforce the laws that will take out the real trash? I just heard a story about a person that was finally put to death, after 7000 appeals, yep that would be 7 thousand. Hmmmm I wonder who flipped that $$$$$$, of course know one cares because the justice system is perfect and it didn't interfer with monday night football. BUT it did mess with our pockets like it or not.
 
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WE keep passing stupid laws to protect pockets, mean while throwing or freedoms rights{incoveniences} to the curb to do so.

My Ky state representative did not introduce 1 single new law in her 6 years in office. Her opponent in the last race tried to use that against her. I told her I would vote for her, if she would keep on "not passing new laws". She said she would do that and She was reelected :) Ken Sweet
 
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts, I do respect them even if I may disagree.
MY concern is what is the line between freedoms and $$$$ signs and to ask you to take a serious look at what is happening. I don't like handing out $$$$$ to this tax or that but each time we vote with our wallets we just stress our $$$$ that much further. I quess that is why bills laws regulations etc.... are passed behind closed doors. Or if not passed behind closed doors they're passed under, what I like to call the "fear dollar vote". This is were America is feared into giving up lifes little conviences{freedoms} by those famous words, "HOW COULD YOU NOT AFFORD TO ______" Or "buy into this ______ otherwise you'll be out in the cold." Oh I allmost forgot what color are we under right now, and should I go get some duct tape and plastic sheating? ;)
 
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My Ky state representative did not introduce 1 single new law in her 6 years in office. Her opponent in the last race tried to use that against her. I told her I would vote for her, if she would keep on "not passing new laws". She said she would do that and She was reelected :) Ken Sweet

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: glad to hear{read} it. I feel there are more then enough laws on the books{booooookkkkkssssssss}. Maybe we should just try to enforce the ones allready there???

Then of course there is the regulation/law that gets invented to oppose another law/regulation {gotta love that :confused2: :drool:} Gee I wonder why _____ truely got away with murder/abuse/robbery/etc. I allways feel safe when I get ID'ed for liquid nails and see wher Tommytwoknocker got out of jail for molesting a child.:mad:
 
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