Possible eBay ID Theft on two Bobcat 873's

jmc · Dec 11, 2003

Re: Possible eBay ID Theft on two Bobcat 873\'s

While you saved some sucker from losing his $5000, he's just going to lose it on the next "good deal". Good work on making things more difficult for the scum, though.

John

crazyal · Dec 12, 2003

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Unfortunately there seams to be a lot of that on eBay. I have seen things from snowmachines to ATV's listed for less than half the cost of new. I have even had someone use a picture I took of a snow machine I sold on eBay. Kind of funny to see your picture shown in a scam auction. If it looks too cheap to be real then it is.

DUMBDOG · Dec 12, 2003

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Email #2 from fake seller:

( I understand that you do not feel confotable with sending advance cash,but
at least a proof that you are serious and that you have the money availble
will be ok for me,so the method is simple...you just made the trasnfer on
a FAKE NAME (your friends name ).. and my address( so that noone will pick
up your money) and send me the transfer details(sender's name receiver,s
name you will put insted on mine and the control number,the amount..).I
will check if this info is ok on the western website chat and after I will
give to there onloine employee this detailes from the transfer and he say
that everything is ok,I will initaite the shipping and let you know the
detailes+tracking number.After you will receive the package and test
it,you will call western union and change the recievers name (your friends
name..) with my name so i will be able to pick up my money.I think that
this is fair for both of us and fast.

Let me know if this works with you.

Regards!)

DUMBDOG · Dec 12, 2003

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email #3 from fake seller

( I still have for sale the item.
I understand that you do not feel confotable with sending advance cash,but
at least a proof that you are serious and that you have the money availble
will be ok for me,so the method is simple...you just made the trasnfer on
a FAKE NAME (your friends name ).. and my address( so that noone will pick
up your money) and send me the transfer details(sender's name receiver,s
name you will put insted on mine and the control number,the amount..).I
will check if this info is ok on the western website chat and after I will
give to there onloine employee this detailes from the transfer and he say
that everything is ok,I will initaite the shipping and let you know the
detailes+tracking number.After you will receive the package and test
it,you will call western union and change the recievers name (your friends
name..) with my name so i will be able to pick up my money.I think that
this is fair for both of us and fast.
)

DUMBDOG · Dec 12, 2003

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reply #4

( dear sir,

I want to tell you that we will make a great deal (you will see). I bougth
the all my items from italy.
So the item was gought from Italy.
Now you can make the transfer by western union and we will close the deal
asap!
Very Imoportant for US. Please tell the agent western union that the money
are for your member of your familly and not for a deal and in this way we
will avoid big fees.
Im waitting your mail !

Kind Regards)

DUMBDOG · Dec 12, 2003

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reply #5

( Hi,

About the deal here are my details:
this is my name:Elizabeth Carma
and adress for the payment:
Street: Via A. Manzoni,
No:96, Napoli,
Zip code:80123,
Italy.
I will pay for the shipping fees by LUFTHANSA AIR
CARGO and for ensurance in case of any damage during
the shipping. I will mail you the transfer dates from
the package with the item so you will know when you
can recieve it. Anyway the package will arrive to you
in 48 hours at your door.
The fastest method of payment so we both can be
satsfied is Western Union.For this you have to go
personally at their office and make the payment from
your name and adress to mine.From there you will get a
conirmation in which will contain the MTCN (money
transfer control number). After that you will mail me
the following details:
-sender first,last name and adress
-the MTCN
-reciever first,last name and address
-the amount that you sent

With all these I will go to an Western Union office
and check the payment and if it is OK than I will make
the shipping right away and also I will need your
adress where you want the package to arrive.
After the arrival you will have a 15 days period to
try the item and if is not satisfactory with your
needs you can send it back on your expense and you
will recieve a FULL REFOUND WITH NO QUESTIONS.
These are the details that you need for the deal and I
hope that this will be the begining of a good
partnershipp and I will be glad if you will recomand
me to your friends for great bussines.

Im waitting your mail.

Regards!
PS: I want to ask you to tell the lady from Western
Union that this transfer is for your member of your
familly, and not for a selling, because I and you
will pay some aditional fees. I hope that you
understand my concern.
)

Darren · Dec 14, 2003

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I'm hoping at some point eBay cleans up their act. EBay, by not using state of the art screening methods, has created a market for stolen goods and outright scams. EBay has one of the biggest databases containing price information. It wouldn't be hard to screen auctions to determine a buyer only that just switched to selling expensive items, items that are priced ridiculously below market, and items that will supposedly originate in a foreign country. I'm sure other indicators are out there. We're not talking rocket science.

While any one of the indicators may not indicate a problem, when several exist in a single auction, eBay should freeze the auction until the seller proves the auction is legitimate. EBay is an accessory to the ripoffs.

Gatorboy · Dec 14, 2003

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DumbDog,

Let me know when your BOBCAT arrives. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DUMBDOG · Dec 23, 2003

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It has been over ten days since I HAVE NOT sent my money and still have not received anything. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

5030 · Dec 23, 2003

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Dave:

On the plus side of E-bay, I trade with people all over the world, especially the middle east and Japan on Zippo lighters. I have an extensive collection of Zippos' and I have never had a fraudulent transaction with them.

I sold one lighter to a fellow in Japan and he paid me with a Japanese Money Order. My local bank got quite a kick out of it. They never cashed a Japanese Money order before!!

I have also bought and sold machine tools and tooling on e-bay. I recently bought a Bridgeport Mill at over $5,000.00. My rule of thumb is any item over $1,000.00, I use e-bay's escrow account. The money is in a holding account until I have the item in my possession and I am satisfied with it.