Possum getting away

[RadarTech]

well... Possums... coyotes, snakes...hmm... we need a bear story now!!!...

So any more news???

J

 

[tallyho8]

Nothing again last night. We heard coyotes howling in the distance but no photos. I spotted one of my neighbor's dogs running loose in my front yard and another neighbor's dog in my back pasture.

I am beginning to suspect that my neighbors don't want me to catch this coyote as I have asked them to keep their dogs out of my yard at night so they don't scare the coyotes away.

Maybe I need to get a roadrunner...........

 

[texasjohn]

Suggest you put up a couple of "traps and poison in use" signs....coyotes won't read them, neighbors may get serious about keeping their dogs under control... and, if you actually catch one of their critters, you are covered.

I'm still of the belief that your answer is a jump leg trap set where you have seen the coyote in photos. You can get some coyote urine as a lure.... seems that Billy has gone off to easier prey:laughing:

 

[Freds]

That's interesting that you wouldn't have caught one of the neighbor's dogs in a trap then.

 

[tallyho8]

Another trapping night ruined. We caught the neighbor's dog last night in front and another chicken has disappeared out of our pen last night in back.

It is hard enough to live trap coyotes but when your neighbors won't cooperate it is impossible.

 

[texasjohn]

sad, sad day....your choices are not easy, but you are losing your property and have a right to put a stop to it.

1. show photos to neighbor and ask him to constrain his pet every night until further notice because you are seeking to trap a coyote. Sadly, this raises neighbor's attention to your activities and intent, and his dog's wanderings...
2. perhaps turn your attention to trapping that dog... and asking neighbor to come get him from the trap...or deliver dog to animal control for your area for neighbor to pick up.
3. In Texas, law is that if you have property (livestock) that is being endangered or harmed or you feel it is highly likely that it will be harmed by a dog on your property, you have the legal right to dispatch that animal immediately. This is an "outside city limits" statement. Of course, problem is that neighbors may become legally or personally vindictive if you do this. Thus, IMHO, the only realistic way to execute this plan is to do it and tell ABSOLUTELY no one, and prevaricate if asked directly by neighbor..."nope, haven't seen your dog lately, he used to come by here but been a day or two since I've seen him " (when I put him 6 feet under) Unfortunately, trapping/dispatch methods are likely to be noisy... gunshot/yelping from leg trap or "live" trap. Don't know how far it is to neighbor's ears.
4. A possible option is a wire snare... can catch both dogs and coyotes with them.
5. At this point, you have two suspects for taking your chickens.... is it that dog, or the coyote??

And, Billy the Exterminator is no where to be seen..shucks!!

Tallyho, no need to respond to my post... do not telegraph your intentions...just proceed to protect your property.

 

[Chilly807]

In Texas, law is that if you have property (livestock) that is being endangered or harmed or you feel it is highly likely that it will be harmed by a dog on your property, you have the legal right to dispatch that animal immediately. This is an "outside city limits" statement. Of course, problem is that neighbors may become legally or personally vindictive if you do this.

May?? Might?? If you want to start a war in the neighbourhood, shoot the dog. Unless the neighbour is stupider than a sack of hammers, he's going to suspect you shot it. Next thing will be 180 grains of lead through the front of your car the next moonless night. If you're lucky.

 

[Mace Canute]

Too bad you couldn't feed the dog something that would give him the world's biggest case of the runs. Trap him, call the neighbour to come and get him, give the pooch a farewell snack for the road and watch as the neighbour hauls him home in his vehicle. With any luck the excitement and vehicle motion will make his digestive system kick into overdrive...with the expected results! The neighbour might suspect you but he probably won't and he will know that hauling his dog home after getting caught at your place was the reason he was in the vehicle in the first place.

 

[Agrantina]

Are you sure its not the dogs getting to the chickens? I wouldnt say to shoot someones pet but here in TN the wildlife officers tells us this about dogs running deer " shoot them if they are running deer- if they have a collar make a good shot" actually we have had a local cattle owner catch 3 dogs eating a new born calf. He was able to shoot 2 of them and the third he followed to the front porch and shot it right there on the front lawn of the owner. I would say its time for a nice but firm talk to the neighbors about their dogs- know the facts-the law-and pull your local officers into the talk. I am always for a good talk to resolve the issue- then come out blasting:thumbsup: just kidding about that one.

AndyG

 

[doall]

man I've been ticked off about some dogs on my hunting land before. But it can get serious in a hurry around here if you kill someones dog. (Hunting dogs or house dogs). I would go about it a different way than killing the dog. Maybe chain it up or something if the owner won't. I don't know what the laws are on containing someone else's pet though.

 

[texasjohn]

Tallyho's losing his pet chickens...that's serious, for sure and a :drool: shame.

Wikipedia says Leash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the leash laws of Louisiana, dogs are prohibited to run at large at all times of the day.

The full statute is
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No person shall suffer or permit any dog in his possession, or kept by him about his premises, to run at large on any unenclosed land, or trespass upon any enclosed or unenclosed lands of another.
HISTORICAL AND STATUTORY NOTES

2003 Main Volume

Source:

Acts 1918, No. 239, ｧ 1.

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So, this has been the law since 1918:thumbsup:

I looked, but found no information regarding Louisiana penalties for allowing an unrestrained dog to invade another's property. Nor could I find anything regarding the rights of a livestock owner whose livestock is molested by a dog.

 

[Lurch]

If no one is in immediate danger. The first time I'll bring your dog home and tell you what he's been doing. The second time I won't.

 

[tallyho8]

I have been a dog owner and a hunter my entire life. I have owned some valuable coon hounds and competed in a dozen national championships and I am aware of how a dog can accidentally trespass on others property and also how much a dog can mean to an owner.

I would never harm a dog for simple trespass or minor incidents but may discuss it with the owner who is really the one at fault. When I caught that dog in my trap I notified the owner the next day that the dog woke me up at 1 AM whining to get out of the trap and showed him the photo. He did keep the dog chained up yesterday which also makes me feel bad because I hate to see a dog chained up and he is too lazy to build a kennel.

Last night, no photos, no fowl missing, nothing trapped. Maybe a dog howling to get off a chain scares the critters away.

 

[Car Doc]

Or maybe a certain dog being on a chain is why no yard birds missing.

 

[blueriver]

I just finally read this whole post ... Coyote, Possum, Skunks, Raccoon .. etc. THE WORST KILLER is a dang old dog.

I think your killer is probably all of the above. My chickens are locked in at night. When I was losing one it was early evening just prior to penning them.

I now have 2 LGD's and been good for 30 days ... Coyotes are so thick here they run in packs. Mostly early morning 4 a.m.

 

[blueriver]

I realize that there are many people in the world who are totally against hunting or fishing or even eating meat. Many others hunt, fish and even butcher their own hogs or cattle and believe there is nothing wrong with this as long as they do as little as they can to make the animal suffer.

People hunting coyotes with dogs are not intentionally making the animal suffer and those who hunt them in foxpens that are several square miles large rarely ever have a dog catch one. The old or sick ones that the dogs catch would be eventually caught and killed by the other coyotes if the dogs didn't get them first.

I respect others who do not want to hunt or fish or are vegetarians and I do not want to try to change their feelings or their ways but they may try to understand that many people in the world feel differently than they do and God alone is the one who will judge us in the end for what we have done.

If you do not believe in a higher power then you must realize that the huge majority of people on earth who have different beliefs than you should be respected for what they believe.

I do not wish to turn this thread into a hunting/anti-hunting thread and hope others will respect my wishes.

VERY WELL SAID!!

 

[Car Doc]

VERY WELL SAID!!

It is?

Looks like he "flew off" on a tangent to me how this went from trapping possums to a sermon is beyond me.

Maybe God is just feeding other critters with these pet yard birds but God only knows? :thumbsup:

 

[blueriver]

It is?

Looks like he "flew off" on a tangent to me how this went from trapping possums to a sermon is beyond me.

Maybe God is just feeding other critters with these pet yard birds but God only knows? :thumbsup:

Well it is ... the way I read it was basicly ... Don't Preach to me about your believes and I won't Preach to you.

 

[tallyho8]

My property is a mile deep and the dog I caught is on the front of my property close to the Mississippi River batture. I have game cameras in different areas and I have never seen a dog on my game cameras that are about 1/3 of a mile back on my property where the chickens are. Just coyotes, possums, armadillos, coons and cats so I don't think a dog is getting the chickens.

Car Doc
My "sermon" was in response to a post that likened foxpens to staging dog fights and I wanted to clarify that this is not the case. Foxpens that are built around large tracts of land encompassing hundreds or even thousands of acres are fenced more to keep your valuable dogs from trespassing or getting killed on the highways than they are with the intent of making "easy" game for the hunters. My "sermon" was just to further explain the situation before many others agreed and turned this into an anti-hunting thread.

It is not the same as a 10 acre pen filled with deer where you get to go in and pick out the one you want to shoot.

 

[Obed]

When I grew up on the farm, our dog ran loose. Before we moved to the farm, we lived in a subdivision. Our dog ran loose there too just like everybody else's dog. We own some vacant rural property. The dogs on that road run loose. One man complained that one of our neighbor's dogs had killed one of his chickens. That dog disappeared. Our neighbors who lost the dog seemed to understand and didn't harbor a grudge.

Where we live now, several dogs run free. I see them on our land. After we get settled in the house we are building, we will probably get a dog for security reasons. We plan to let the dog run free as that seems to be ok where we live. If our dog killed someone's chickens, I wouldn't have a problem if the farmer killed our dog. I figure that's his right. I've heard that once a dog kills a chicken, it's really hard to break that habit.

If someone's dog killed a chicken of ours, I'm guessing that dog would disappear. I suppose it's different if you suspect someone's dog but have no proof. While it's very nice to give the dog owner a warning, I think you are more likely to cause deep seated grudges if you complain to the owner. If you complained and the dog later disappeared, you would always be suspected whether or not you had anything to do with the disappearance. Bad blood between neighbors is to be avoided at all costs; even if that means dispatching of a bad dog in secret.

In some ways, it's sad that dogs can't play in the neighborhood anymore. It's sad that kids play soccer every night across town instead of playing in the neighborhood with the other kids who live there. It's sad that we build back porches instead of front porches and don't know the names of the people who live across the street from us.

I guess that I'm old fashioned and not up with the times.

Obed