Post Anchors - Need Help

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Come spring time I will start a pole barn sort of structure over a 16'x40' concrete slab. I will use treated 6"x6" for post and I almost fainted when I saw post anchors were going for $20 to $50 each these days. I am just talking about galvanized two sided or four sided metal that folds up and is nailed to the bottom of the post. The post sets on a u shaped perch inside that to keep the water out. Man this is high priced. The anchors will cost as much as the post.

Tell me how to anchor a 6x6 post to bare concrete without spending that on anchors.
 
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Come spring time I will start a pole barn sort of structure over a 16'x40' concrete slab. I will use treated 6"x6" for post and I almost fainted when I saw post anchors were going for $20 to $50 each these days. I am just talking about galvanized two sided or four sided metal that folds up and is nailed to the bottom of the post. The post sets on a u shaped perch inside that to keep the water out. Man this is high priced. The anchors will cost as much as the post.

Tell me how to anchor a 6x6 post to bare concrete without spending that on anchors.
Why didn't you just set the poles in the ground first then pour the cement later?
 
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Cause the cement has been hardening for about two years.
 
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Drill a 5/8 hole in the concrete and a 5/8 hole in the bottom of the post and use rebar to help anchor the rascal. It will at least keep it from sliding around.........
 
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Drill a 5/8 hole in the concrete and a 5/8 hole in the bottom of the post and use rebar to help anchor the rascal. It will at least keep it from sliding around.........
If you do use rebars, slipping some large galvanized washers over the bars before adding the posts will keep them off the floor and dry.
 
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I don't have a good replacement for the post anchors. However, the suggestion about the rebar is not going to work. The post anchors are required for uplift, to hold the wood structure down in case of high winds or seismic movement. The rebar isn't going to do that.

I suppose you could fool around with some expansion bolts and short pieces of angle iron but that would probably be just as costly as the anchors. If you haven't set anything in the concrete when you poured it then you are going to need some sort of pricey anchor bolt or adhesive anchor anyway.
 
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Happy, you are right on target. I never intended to put a roof over this pad but you know, plans change. Now I am going to have to pay the price for at least $20 apiece anchors. I was just having sticker shock yesterday as the post don't cost much more than that. PHOEY!!!
 
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Get some length of strap iron, bend them in an L shape, fasten them to the pole with lag bolts, hammerdrill and fasten to the concrete ???

Just a thought ....
 
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how about drilling normal pole building holes on the outside of the slab and then build your pole barn. You could always pour a finish 12'' strip around the edge. This would make for a more sturdy building. Thoughts All????
 
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You could use treated 2x6 as a "sill plate" and fasten your posts to it (like traditional frame construction) then bolt the 2x6 to the pad. Gives you a bottom nailer for the sheathing or siding too:eek:
 
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You could use treated 2x6 as a "sill plate" and fasten your posts to it (like traditional frame construction) then bolt the 2x6 to the pad. Gives you a bottom nailer for the sheathing or siding too:eek:

Now that's an idea. If I don't run a sill plate all the way down the side I could run it a foot on either side of the 6x6 post. Lag screw the bottom sill plate to the bottom of the post, put some T brackets on each side, then fasten the 2x6 down with anchors. Got it. Sounds like a plan.
 
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how about drilling normal pole building holes on the outside of the slab and then build your pole barn. You could always pour a finish 12'' strip around the edge. This would make for a more sturdy building. Thoughts All????
Hold on a minute jack.
Ya stole my idea!
That's what i was gonna suggest:
 
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Rent one of those cement cutting chainsaws with diamond teeth and cut the hole you need.
 
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How did you come to have that situation .
Why was the pad poured in the first place back then?


Just an RV pad. Did not have a tractor then or want to put a roof over the RV. Now I need a shop and a tractor house.
 
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If I had a slab to build on I would build a stick built wall. I think the cost would be close to the same and maybe cheeper if you finsh the interior.....Larry
 
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Was this a monolithic pour that have support at the edges? The results wouldnt be too good if its just a slab with no support and the posts resting on a just a pad.
 
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Just an RV pad. Did not have a tractor then or want to put a roof over the RV. Now I need a shop and a tractor house.
Boring holes to set the post in allows you to make the building any size you want it which could be a big advantage over going with the limited 16 x 40 pad.
 
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The builder I used to haul materials for used an "L" shaped galvanized bracket to secure posts when the posts were not dug into the ground. On most of the job sights I observed, the anchor bolts were placed in specific locations, then a treated mud sill was laid down then the post was set with brackets on either side. The skirt board was then nailed to both the sill plate and the posts.

That was a few years ago and I have no idea what those brackets cost. I would spend some time searching on the net first.

As discussed here I believe and on other forums, ACQ treated wood is corrosive to fasteners. If you go with drilling and using expansion anchors, find something in stainless if you can (more bucks).

Perhaps you could either find some heavy angle or weld up some plate steel yourself or have a shop do it. Except for the reaction with the ACQ, as long as you eliminate dampness, fairly thick brackets with a good paint job should last fairly long.

There is a material available similar to ice dam for building decks with ACQ. Even with stainless or galvanized hardware, at least one builder that I read about puts a piece of that membrane between all of his fasteners and the wood, the idea to negate deterioration. Standard stick construction on the slab would maybe be more cost effective as someone suggested.

Setting the posts outside of the existing slab would cost you in wasted materials if the slab is laid out based on center to center dimensions. A lot of figuring would be required when ordering too. I agree that going larger may be the key to using the existing pad. That way, you can stay with center to center measurements.
 
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Was this a monolithic pour that have support at the edges? The results wouldnt be too good if its just a slab with no support and the posts resting on a just a pad.

All the more reason to use a sill and stick-built walls, to spread the load...
 
 
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