Price Check Potential BX Buyer Here....Your Price Opinions Please ?

[David Cockey]

"that generally the more you spend the more the depreciation will be, and the larger the loss if and when you do sell"

That is the problem. Since some of us are older and have gone through at least one tractor, we know better. Farm tractors don't really depreciate in money terms, like automobiles. I sold a 1985 Kubota B-5200 last year (to buy a BX24) at a slightly higher price in dollars than I paid for it. (sure the dollar was worth more then). I watched Ebay sales and I noticed that the same tractor with a FEL was selling at twice the price of the same tractor with a FEL at the time. I could have bought the FEL with the B5200 at the time, for a bit extra. I didn't and adding it on a year later was too expensive. Two years later it was even more expensive, etc., etc. until you couldn't find the FEL anymore.

That's why I said "generally". I agree that tractors don't depreciate as fast as automobiles, but they still depreciate once inflation is adjusted for.

A FEL may be a good investment if you resell the tractor, though I suspect it would still not pay off if you never used it and kept the tractor for more than a couple of years. The FEL we bought with our BX2350 was around $2000 extra (round numbers). If we sell the tractor after three years I'd need to get more than $2000 over what the tractor would have sold without the FEL to break even assuming I don't put any value on owning the FEL. Otherwise I would have been better off putting the money used to buy it in a savings account or money market. However, the FEL is very useful to us and I expect if we do decide to sell the tractor sometime (we tend to keep things for a long, long time) the $2000 will be considered well spent.

 

[montelatici]

I live in a rural community, most people own tractors for 20-30 years. I would agree that if one plans to sell a tractor after 2-3 years then perhaps the resale value of the tractor with or without a FEL or B/H will not vary much. However, the point, is why buy a Kubota BX (without taking advantage of its ability to handle a FEL), for mowing an acre or two? There are lawn tractors that can do the mowing at a fifth of the cost.

 

[Tom_H]

No one ever says they bought too much. It's incredible that no one every buys more tractor or attachments than they need.

Actually, there was a very long Kubota thread that ran a couple of years ago in which many members listed things they bought and then found they didn't need or use. It's in the archives if anyone wants to search for it.

Things I bought and don't use include: extra set of wheels with turf tires, pond scoop, grass catcher/bagger. Now that my Woods backhoe is about to arrive, I would be able to do without the PHD.

EDIT: O. K., so turns out the thread is in the attachments forum, however a number of the posters are Kubota owners. Heres the link to the thread:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ents-you-wish-you-hadnt.html?highlight=bought

 

[LBrown59]

Why would you pay for a tractor that has a 3-point hitch and hydraulics designed for a BH and FEL when you don't intend to use those features?

Makes more sense to buy the tractor with a 3-point hitch and hydraulics any time the one without them cost almost as much or more.
== L B ==

 

[charliepff]

As I have found you will always find more uses for your tractor down the road. Better to by the one you can grow into.

 

[Tom_H]

This is a real riot. I usually don't glance at that little place that indicates P.M.s. Today I noticed that there was a new one. Here is what was in my inbox, sent this past Monday (4 days ago) the 14th:

Delta 3-2
New Member

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5

Interesting Reply....
.....but you missed my point.

You state that I asked for advice and I got it. Hmmmm....no, I asked for OPINIONS on prices. I didn't ask for "advice" on buying something that all of YOU would want. I asked for price opinions. Odd how you guys read what you want to read. See what you want to see.

"I have the feeling that if the ten or so men in this thread were all in the same room, you wouldn't say the stuff like this to the faces of all of them at once"

Hmmmm.....so you're basically saying that if there were 10 of your bubbas on one side of the room and me on the other....I wouldn't have the testicular fortitude to say to all of you what I wrote in the forum ? You're wrong ! I would. Reason is....I didn't SAY anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't THREATEN anyone unlike you who basically told me in your public posting that I should have my *** kicked for what I wrote anonymously. Gee, pretty thin skinned aren't we ?

Now....I'm not a believer in anonymity on this forum or any others. But if you'd at least would like a verbal conversation, you're welcome to call me on my cell phone at: 814-572-5007. I'm Dan....and you can then TELL me verbally what I wrote that would get my *** kicked if I said it to you and your bubbas while we were all in the same room.

814-572-5007.....you're welcome to call anytime if you'd like a VERBAL chat.

Dan

Interesting.

 

[KeithInSpace]

Similar to Mr. Tom H, I got my 'love letter' the very same day...as follows:

I asked a very simple question, and I got answers to questions NOT asked and no one answered my original question.

So...why did I come to this forum ? I came to aske a question and see if anyone would have the decency to respond to what I ASKED, not provide their opinions on other issues. Basically, those of you telling me your opinions on things beyond what I asked assistance on are pretty much just pompous asses; not helpful.

BTW....you guys set ME off.....you think you have ownership to these forums. You don't.

So....I hope you're proud of all of your tractor "knowledge". But, in the scheme of life you may want to consider "helping" people with the help they ask for and not your opinionated comments on topics BEYOND the requested advice.

I'm not one to post PMs as they are, after all, PMs. But this whole experience is so very humerous. I'm not sure what we did to threaten Mr. Delta 3-2 so very much. We, obviously, aren't "Bubbas" and have no reason to kick anyone in the prosterior. Nobody is on any side. We did what we always do...try to spend someone else's money.

I was in the trailer forum and have a thread soliciting advise about my new trailer purchase. Folks keep telling me that a 16' trailer wasn't enough (get a 20') and to get the heavier rating (10,000# vs. 7,000# though my max anticipated load is ~4,000#), thereby increasing my purchase by over 1/3 of my budgeted price. Nobody meant any malice. Nobody knows that I'm writing a VERY painful check to finish paying for last year's taxes (think "pay for a new Porsche 911 in cash" kind of check).

Do I get bent? Do I send a whole group of folks spiteful messages dumping on this family-friendly forum? Do I speak of kicking folks in the rump? Do I speak ill of the blood-sucking government? And complain about how they siphon the small business owner and middle to upper-middle class dry, leaving them with nothing but holes in their socks and bread in the fridge?

No. I end up digging and digging, looking and looking, and finding a the perfect, brand new from the dealer, factory fresh 10,000# 20' long trailer for almost the same price as the 7,000# 16' long trailer I was originally looking at.

That is a good thing.

It has been fun, anyway. I wish this individual the very best and hopes he can see that we are trying to be a helpful bunch.

Maybe I'll call and leave a message. Perhaps a brief political commentary. Dunno. Why can't we just all get along?

 

[Dyer retired]

Hey Dyer,

Odd....how I asked a question in price comparison and got all kinds of replies about adding MORE equipment at more expense.

As far as you not answering anything I post, the fact of the matter is that I could care less what you do. I don't live on this forum or the Internet. I asked a really SIMPLE question and it was turned into anything BUT what I asked.

It really amazes me how one can speak their mind and when they do, others will brand it uncivil.


Tom_H, Keith,

I got the above PM from Delta 3-2, but since I told him I would not be responding to him anymore, I didn't. I found it interesting that I got a PM from a guy that doesn't care what I think or do. Dyer, retired

 

[ChuckinNH]

Well, this past winter was harder on some folks than others I guess.

 

[Dyer retired]

I know that nobody asked for this input, but if I were buying a tractor, I'd make sure it had one of these! Just showing off my Spring project - hydraulic chute rotation rig. Dyer, retired