PT 1850 Running Hot !

   / PT 1850 Running Hot !
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#21  
J_J said:
Who on earth did you call about oil coolers. The oil coolers that I am talking about run from $30 to $120, depends on the core type. This is very similar to the transmission oil coolers used on millions of cars, to cool the transmission. Like I said before, I had one of them on my 25 hp Kohler, and onother to cool the hydraulic oil. Yor can get all the fans you want at the junk yard.


I called Power Trac, to get one like the pt has on it.

The million dollar question is will the other am coolers hold the pressure? The one on the PT now has hydraulic lines with compression fittings on them, so I assume the fluid pressure there could be +-1000 psi ?? Its possible they gave me the wrong price.

tracdoc,
Thanks for those links.
 
   / PT 1850 Running Hot !
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#22  
I just checked the cooler links. Some of those coolers have npt fittings, so they might work. The cheap ones with hose clamps might not hold the pressure.
 
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AltavistaLawn said:
I called Power Trac, to get one like the pt has on it.

The million dollar question is will the other am coolers hold the pressure? The one on the PT now has hydraulic lines with compression fittings on them, so I assume the fluid pressure there could be +-1000 psi ?? Its possible they gave me the wrong price.

tracdoc,
Thanks for those links.

They probably did give you the right price for a unit that they want to sell to you. I did an Internet search, and there are many engine oil cooling units.

The oil pressure is probably no more than 30 to 60 lbs on that engine Even if it is high pressure, think of the cooler for the hyd fluid. The PT operates the cylinders and motors, at 3000 psi, but on the way back to tank, it goes through the hyd cooler, which is thin metal. Can you post a close up picture of the oil cooler. Check your manual for the oil pressure, or put a gage on it.
 
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J_J said:
This is the oil cooler that I am talking about.

So do you remover the filter, install the adapter and put the filter back on? That seems simple enough.
 
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J_J said:
The PT operates the cylinders and motors, at 3000 psi, but on the way back to tank, it goes through the hyd cooler, which is thin metal. Can you post a close up picture of the oil cooler. Check your manual for the oil pressure, or put a gage on it.


On the PT cooler, I think the pressure on the heat exchange would be pretty low since it's outlet is to the reservoir and the back pressure is not very much (just a guess). What do you think?

Not an expert Bob

Bob Rip
 
   / PT 1850 Running Hot ! #26  
MossRoad said:
So do you remover the filter, install the adapter and put the filter back on? That seems simple enough.

Some of the oil coolers like this, you just unscrew the oil filter, and screw on an adapter that has two hoses conected to it, and they run to the oil coller, which could be mounted where ever you like. I think I would add a fan to push or pull air across the add on cooler. It would have to be better than what you have now.

On one of my Kohler engines, they use a little oil cooler on the side of the engine. It doesn'tt look like much, but seems to be doing its job. That engine is not enclosed in a housing like the PT.
 
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BobRip said:
On the PT cooler, I think the pressure on the heat exchange would be pretty low since it's outlet is to the reservoir and the back pressure is not very much (just a guess). What do you think?

Not an expert Bob

Bob Rip


Bob, The pressure would have to be low, those radiators /coolers can't handle to much pressure. I have gages in the high pressure hyd lines, none in the low pressure side. I think the lines from the hyd cooler go directly to tank.

I wish they would bring the spell checker back. I read back over the post several times, and still misspell words. If you find mistakes, please ignore, and think, we are all getting older, and the eyes are get dimmer.
 
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J_J said:
Bob, The pressure would have to be low, those radiators /coolers can't handle to much pressure. I have gages in the high pressure hyd lines, none in the low pressure side. I think the lines from the hyd cooler go directly to tank.

.

My diagram shows the line going directly to the tank. Makes sense to keep the cost and weight of the cooler down.

Bob Rip
 
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J_J said:
I wish they would bring the spell checker back. I read back over the post several times, and still misspell words. If you find mistakes, please ignore, and think, we are all getting older, and the eyes are get dimmer.

When you do a QUOTE the screen that comes up with the smiley faces are on the right... look above that. There is an icon with ABC and a check mark.

That is the spell checkerrrrrr! ;) :rolleyes: :eek:
 
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MossRoad said:
When you do a QUOTE the screen that comes up with the smiley faces are on the right... look above that. There is an icon with ABC and a check mark.

That is the spell checkerrrrrr! ;) :rolleyes: :eek:


David, My icons are below the quote and message block. I count 15 icons, but no icon with ABC, and a check mark.
 
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J_J said:
David, My icons are below the quote and message block. I count 15 icons, but no icon with ABC, and a check mark.

J_J,
I hit the quote and get the screen that is attached... I circled the spell check in blue. Do you get a different screen when you hit the quote button?
 

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   / PT 1850 Running Hot ! #32  
A friend of mine took his Kubota to the dealer for overheating. They could not find the cause and said there was no problem. After a lot of head scratching he checked the oil. It had been overfilled. He drained the oil to the correct level and the problem was cured.
 
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MossRoad said:
J_J,
I hit the quote and get the screen that is attached... I circled the spell check in blue. Do you get a different screen when you hit the quote button?

David,
I also can not get the spell check to show up.
PJ
 
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MossRoad said:
J_J,
I hit the quote and get the screen that is attached... I circled the spell check in blue. Do you get a different screen when you hit the quote button?

I finally found the spell checker by clicking on

User CP
Edit options
Miscellaneous options
Standard editor

There are three options,Basic editor, Standard editor, and Advanced options.

After all this I had to download ieSpell but I do have all the icons , some on the right and on bottom . The spell checker now works.
 
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#36  
Well, the starter is dead on it now, after 250 hours. So the heating problem will have to wait.

Terry did say they make an agricultural cooling kit for it, I think it goes in place of the little oil cooler on the engine.


I think the hydro suystem needs an outside air intake, better airflow, and th eengine needs the muffler moved outside, away from the engine, and a bigger cooler.

We can stop and clean out the cooler, BUT
If I or anyone else bought a new car or truck, drove it for two hours and it overheated...called and the dealer said oh, u gotta spray out the cooling fins; I don't think it would fly.

So it shouldn't fly on a 35K dollar piece of equipment.
 
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Altavista, I have to agree with you here. This is a well known and well documented problem. And it's unacceptable for a machine designed to mow. Just today, I had to clean my cooler before I could mow. I only have a small air compressor and it started to smoke before I finished. With my "Charlie-like" set up, I do get about 8 hours between cleanings though.
 
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ClintBlake said:
Same for me.


Check my earlier post about how I got the spell checker to work.

Check post # 34
 

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