PTO Question

thcri · Mar 18, 2003

When you are applying pressure it is best to have equal force all the way around. If you use a come-along you would tend to pull to one side unless you could rig up something to pull evenly. But before ruinning a PTO shaft you sure could give it a try.

murph

theboman · Mar 18, 2003

Ah, it just came to me.
Disconnect the tiller from the tractor and ease the tractor forward. Now I'm figuring your PTO is a 2 piece shaft. Maybe it'll take off the pressure and release. If you'd already did that, never mind.

Now I ain't the smartest person in the world, just one of the better looking ones.

BillyP · Mar 18, 2003

Pull the lower half of the shaft off. Run a piece of cable through the remaining shaft U- joint and use a cable clamp to connect the loop. Attach a come along to a tree and attached the come along hook to the PTO cable loop. Make sure you have everything arranged in a straight line. Start ratcheting until you get some tension on the cable. 'Lightly' tap the end of the PTO shaft with a hammer. Repeat steps until she comes loose.

Sounds like it would work

thcri · Mar 18, 2003

Billy,

That sounds like the best idea to me for starters.

murph

rdbrumfield · Mar 18, 2003

If the release mechanism is jammed, remove it. You will probaby have to remove the safety shroud if your tractor has one, and drive out the locking pin. Once the pin is out, connect the shaft to something immoveable and put a strain on it with a comealong or chain binder. stand clear and gently tap around the pto shaft. With the vibrations and the tension on it it should pop right off. Chances are that it is jjust stuck against the splines where they start to flair back to the round shaft. If the locking pin is free, do the same, but don't remove it. It will slip back and lock into position where it should, then release it and hopefully it will not be damaged.

WVBill · Mar 18, 2003

At some point in the pulling it off process the PTO shaft's locking mechanism (collar or pin) is going to click in (this assumes it is now pushed on past the locking point). When that happens you're going to have to reach in there and unlock the mechanism which will be very difficult if there is tension on the shaft at the time.

If it is on past the locking point now, once you get it to move back to the locking point, hopefully you will be able to pull it the rest of the way off by hand.

Anonymous Poster · Mar 18, 2003

Most pto stubs (the tractor part) are flaired bigger in close to the tractor. Once you get this sucker to move a tiny bit, it should come off quite easily the rest of the way. The only thorn will be the locking pin, if that was sheared or bent or damaged, it will need some attention to free it. See that the locking pin is not causing any binding first.

Get the tiller off your tractor, & just deal with the 1/2 pto shaft that is stuck to the tractor. I'd tap it a bit (we are not talking serious blows with a sledge, just some rapping!), if that doesn't work, try the come-along tension & more rapping. Don't try pulling with your tractor and a chain - you WILL pull the guts out of the back of your tractor. You don't want so much tension you are moving the tractor, etc. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If that doesn't work, you can take the spider apart on the universal joint & get a wheel puller in there. I sure would not cut it apart, all spiders come apart with clips or caps! If you have a torch, you can heat up the pto _not_ the tractor stub, not ever as these are heat treated & you will ruin it! But you could add some heat to the outer casting, lightly, to expand it.

By now, it will be off.

That is how I would do things - the biggest hassle would be figuring out if the locking pin is binding things all up - and dealing with it first.

Some tractors have just a snap ring holding in the pto stub - you can easily remove the stub from your tractor, take the whole mess to a dealer or machine shop, and let them get it apart.

--->Paul

Whiskey · Mar 18, 2003

Rfawkes:

After trying all steps above (I like the come-along one) and hopeing it works, proceed to call son-in-law and chew on his backside and to keep his backside off your equipment untill he knows how to use it!!!!!

Whiskey

DK35vince · Mar 18, 2003

( proceed to call son-in-law and chew on his backside and to keep his backside off your equipment untill he knows how to use it! )

It may not be fully the son in laws fault if the shaft was to long.

Anonymous Poster · Mar 18, 2003

It may not be fully the son in laws fault if the shaft was to long. 

True, but they should serve some purpose, should't they? Go ahead, blame the kid...

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