Pulling well pump

[Willl]

Here ya go. Just get this machine. It is a one man job.

That's sweet. :thumbsup:

 

[E/S]

It is preferable you supervise and the helpers work.:thumbsup:

Egon,
Thankfully I have plenty of help.

E/S

 

[E/S]

Can your loader handle that weight even at the bucket?

Roy,
My M8540 is rated at 5000# at the pivot. I am concerned about the leverage a 10' boom pole would put on the tractor.

E/S

 

[E/S]

Are you sure that the drop pipe is actually 500' or is the well that deep with drop pipe only extending to about 20' below the water line? (Just a thought)

Qapla,
I know the well is 540' deep from the drillers report. I am guessing the pump is set at around 300' from the hp. and gpm. produced. I also know the static water level is at 180'.

E/S

 

[E/S]

Here ya go. Just get this machine. It is a one man job.
There is NO WAY "I" would ever allow to be built a submersible pump
with PVC pipe. NO WAY JOSE! Steel is just fine thank you.

Artisan,
That is cool, but I'm with you on steel pipe that deep !

E/S

 

[QRTRHRS]

Question for everyone on black plastic well water pipe. Maybe seven or eight years ago, I was working for a friend who was licensed and had an electrical/plumbing/hvac business. About as conservative as anyone and not really a green "nut", he strongly believed in not using black PVC due to leaching for well pump applications. At the time, I never dwelled on the issue.

Rather, he had this pipe that was blue on the outside with an opaque inner layer. I have done some searching and have not really been able to substantiate his claim. Nor have I kept in touch with him or I would simply ask him.

Thoughts anyone?

 

[E/S]

For those of you with a pump on polly pipe w/ a pull rope, I have used one of these for 30+ yrs. Just set the short legs straddle of the casing and pull away.

E/S

 

[dawzie]

I would do a replacement with that Sch-80 threaded plastic pipe only. It's what it is made for.

Don't forget to clorinate the well, it does really need to be done.

Do a google search, it will explain how and why.

 

[crazyal]

If it was me I would buy one of those cheap electric atv winches. You could rent several sections of staging or make a tripod to hold the winch up over the well head. To hold the pipe up all you need is a flat piece of steel with a U cut in it, large enough for the pipe to slide through but small enough the couplings can't. Finally get yourself a 1 1/4" steel cap and weld a ring large enough to clip the hook from the winch too.

 

[CurlyDave]

I would do a replacement with that Sch-80 threaded plastic pipe only. It's what it is made for.

Don't forget to clorinate the well, it does really need to be done.

Do a google search, it will explain how and why.

I agree completely. The schedule 80 PVC, threaded sections is the right material for the job. It is much lighter than the galvanized pipe, so the total weight will not be anywhere near the 1500 lb of the existing pipe.

Now, my suggestion would be to use either galvanized or stainless for the very top 21' section of the pipe. The reason for this is that if something happens to hit the Tee at the top of the well casing plastic pipe can be broken off and the pump will fall to the bottom of the well. If the top section is metal pipe, it will not break and will protect the rest of the pipe string.

If the pipe string and pump falls to the bottom of the well, it can cost many thou$and$ to recover the pump. Do not ask how I know this...

 

[cmyoung2]

I agree completely. The schedule 80 PVC, threaded sections is the right material for the job. It is much lighter than the galvanized pipe, so the total weight will not be anywhere near the 1500 lb of the existing pipe.

Now, my suggestion would be to use either galvanized or stainless for the very top 21' section of the pipe. The reason for this is that if something happens to hit the Tee at the top of the well casing plastic pipe can be broken off and the pump will fall to the bottom of the well. If the top section is metal pipe, it will not break and will protect the rest of the pipe string.

If the pipe string and pump falls to the bottom of the well, it can cost many thou$ to recover the pump. Do not ask how I know this...

And this is why we use a safety rope tied to the pump:thumbsup:

 

[crazyal]

I agree completely. The schedule 80 PVC, threaded sections is the right material for the job. It is much lighter than the galvanized pipe, so the total weight will not be anywhere near the 1500 lb of the existing pipe.

Now, my suggestion would be to use either galvanized or stainless for the very top 21' section of the pipe. The reason for this is that if something happens to hit the Tee at the top of the well casing plastic pipe can be broken off and the pump will fall to the bottom of the well. If the top section is metal pipe, it will not break and will protect the rest of the pipe string.

If the pipe string and pump falls to the bottom of the well, it can cost many thou$ to recover the pump. Do not ask how I know this...

Around here there's no tee to break off. Since the ground freezes they use a pitless adapter, some a light weight brass ones but most well companies use a nice heavy one. I know mine is about 5 feet down below grade in the casing. It has a stainless cable with a clip that hooks onto the top of the casing that doubles as a release for the latch that locks when slid into place.

The drillers have found the safety ropes to be more of a pain than help. Usually they are not strong enough to retrieve the pump if it get caught on the jagged sides of the well and if it falls into the well (they actually have this problem quite often) the rope gets sucked into the impeller of the pump and now needs to be removed.

They also use a heavy duty barbed fitting that's thicker and has a longer than normal section where the plastic pipe slides on.

 

[chopped]

And this is why we use a safety rope tied to the pump:thumbsup:

And why the pump has a tasb for attachment. Ill admit I havent use the rope to pull a pump out I alwasy considered it an added safety against loosing it down the shaft.Knowing now it is supposed to be used to pull the pump up I then imagined something like the piost with the car wheel and then a cheap winck on it to drive the wheel and you would just wind the rope onto the wheel.Im not sure how much rope would hold..

 

[dieselscout80]

And why the pump has a tasb for attachment. Ill admit I havent use the rope to pull a pump out I alwasy considered it an added safety against loosing it down the shaft.Knowing now it is supposed to be used to pull the pump up I then imagined something like the piost with the car wheel and then a cheap winck on it to drive the wheel and you would just wind the rope onto the wheel.Im not sure how much rope would hold..

I've been told to hook the rope to a ATV/Truck/Tractor and pull it over a large tractor rim (with no tire on it), but I think that will only work if its a single piece of plastic pipe.

Note I've never done it, but I'm planing for it since I don't know how old my well pump is.

 

[Artisan]

I have never done a pump, my neck of the woods has few, BUT SOME HOWEVER, common sense seems to me, to dictate a safety wire / rope. I woukld offer this for X dollars and it would be clear in my recomendations to install it, recomendations not preformed at YOUR risk.

1500' of SS .125 wire is CHEAP compared to loosing anything down a hole that deep. Pumps do come w/ tabs to tie off too yes? Just seems like a no brainer to me.

 

[biggerten]

Here's a thread our new well (summer 2010).

CHINESE TRACTOR OWNERS CLUB FORUM - New Well

 

[Western]

Poor drawing of a puller my friend and I built to pull hi 400+' well.
Took maybe 2 hours to pull with this. Breaking some of the couplings loose was the bigger PITA.

The square in the top held the pipe upright as it came up, the 2 chain hoist worked great. Pull half with the 1st chain then pull the rest with the second hoist. When we got the coupling a foot or so out of the well head we put both the "pipe grabbers" we made below the coupling to hold it while we broke the upper joint free, then we just pulled in down and away from the platform.

We used 2-3/8ths" pipe for the legs and pinned them to the ground with metal stakes through the base plates.

The pullers we made from 1/2 steel plate and unlike my drawing they only had around a 3/8" clearance from the pipe, so we could get a good "bite" angle. Also had an "offset" cut out opening, so they wouldn't fall off, (1st ones we made fell off:thumbsup:

I wasn't there to help him put it back in, but he said it was a "snap" with his grandson. He did use some kind of anti-seize on the threads.

He built a deer feeder out of it when he was done

 

[tommu56]

when I had to pull mine when the safety rope broke I had ~200ft of sch 120 pvc pipe on the bottom and 200+ poly pipe on top.

I took a 6' piece of 3/8 chain and put about 5 or 6 turns around the pipe and brought the end back up to the hauling end put a grade 8 3/8 nut bolt ans heavy washers through it. it sort of looked like a noose.
I used the back hoe to pull on one if these and used another below it to lock the pipe it was fastened to the steel case with a separate bolt lowering the backhoe the lower one would grab the pipe the upper one would slide down the pipe as I lowered the hoe and re tighten as soon as I lifted back up for the next cycle.


When I was ready to put it back in I put 1/2" poly rope on it instead of the 1/4 that was on it for safety. I did all this by my self with the backhoe's assistance and it took 2 good days to pull it and put it back in I used the tractor and the 1/2" rope to lower it back down.

tom

 

[Knugent48]

I have a 2" black Plastic pipe attached to an old well pump. I tried to remove the pipe and pump to replace it, however, the pipe cap slipped off the pipe, and the pipe and pump fell into the well. The pipe is approximately 50' down, and leaning against the 6" galvanized pipe. How in the world can I retrieve the pipe and pump? I have read a few threads, but it doesn't seem like there is anything I can just go to the local Tractor Supply and buy. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[E/S]

How deep is the well ?
A well driller can try to fish the pump out by the wire.
You can also try to lift it out by drooping 1 in steel pipe to the bottom of the well and blow the pump out with a BIG air compressor.

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