Pushing the budget..

   / Pushing the budget.. #42  
What is the most used part of a building???

I'm going to say the roof. The floor gets used in areas, some for storage, others areas for walking on, and a lot of it just collects dust. But the roof is used 24/7 protecting the building, keeping the sun or rain off of everything inside my building. It is the most important part of my buildings!!!
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #43  
I knew you would get it "Mr Logic". :D

Ha! Well, that does make a lot of sense. I'm getting quotes for a shop and through the process of getting the costs down to my budget, the floor hasn't come into play yet. I need to consider the cost of quality into the floor as well. I'd much rather have a durable strong floor than a couple of extra Windows or other aesthetic options that are nice however not needed. Thanks!
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #44  
I'm going to say the roof. The floor gets used in areas, some for storage, others areas for walking on, and a lot of it just collects dust. But the roof is used 24/7 protecting the building, keeping the sun or rain off of everything inside my building. It is the most important part of my buildings!!!

Aw, please say it's the floor, just this once...I can't go another sleepless night refiguring my quotes. :)
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #45  
I'm going to say the roof. The floor gets used in areas, some for storage, others areas for walking on, and a lot of it just collects dust. But the roof is used 24/7 protecting the building, keeping the sun or rain off of everything inside my building. It is the most important part of my buildings!!!

Eddie, today is a beautiful day up here in God's Country. Sunshine, no wind. I could remove the roof from my shop and my house today and still use them. Try that with your floor.

Tonight when it gets cold all that changes. But today the only part of my building that's still working is the floor. Try working in a shop with a dirt floor or gravel floor after having good concrete. :)
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #46  
Ha! Well, that does make a lot of sense. I'm getting quotes for a shop and through the process of getting the costs down to my budget, the floor hasn't come into play yet. I need to consider the cost of quality into the floor as well. I'd much rather have a durable strong floor than a couple of extra Windows or other aesthetic options that are nice however not needed. Thanks!

Very true. :)
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #47  
It is not so much the thickness of the concrete but what is under it. Here we go down 12-18 with compacted stone before we pour. The soil is mostly clay and expands big time. You go 15 miles east where it is sand you compact the soil and pour. Around here the difference between 4 and 5 will make no difference for cracking and heaving if what underneath is not correct! Where we put our pole barn we had to go down 36" to get rid of the top soil, before we could get to the clay for a base, then we filled with stone. Don't want to pop your bubble but 5" concrete won't stop the cracking if you do not have a good base and if the ground freezes where you are the material that is compacted is going to matter.
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #48  
... Try working in a shop with a dirt floor or gravel floor after having good concrete. :)

My first workshop had a dirt floor. I added rock and that really didn't make it any better. I could still use it, I just hated crawling under anything with gravel, or trying to roll anything on wheels around with it. Now I have concrete and I feel it's worth the cost. But not having concrete didn't make my shop not a shop. While I realize this is all in jest, I can't imagine not having a roof on a building.
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #49  
My first workshop had a dirt floor. I added rock and that really didn't make it any better. I could still use it, I just hated crawling under anything with gravel, or trying to roll anything on wheels around with it. Now I have concrete and I feel it's worth the cost. But not having concrete didn't make my shop not a shop. While I realize this is all in jest, I can't imagine not having a roof on a building.

A building or edifice is a structure with a roof and walls standing more or less permanently in one place, such as a house or factory.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building

A concrete floor without a roof is a pad. Many TBN'ers have pole barns without a concrete floor.
 
   / Pushing the budget.. #50  
I said nothing about convenience or improved or crude or anything else. I simply said the floor is the most used part of a shop. I'll stand by that. I'm in my shop right now. The only part of it I'm using is the floor. :)

Newbury, you are correct, many people have a pole barn without a concrete floor. And it's just what you said, a Pole Barn. :)
 

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