Question about Yanmar models

[tman1020]

I am a huge Yanmar 3 cylinder fan but you mentioned that your wife may use tractor. One thing to keep in mind is safety. I'm not sure to what extent the Yanmar referb you are considering but I think most only have rops,pto shield,& overrun clutch. Where as most new tractors have all that plus seat safety and clutch or hydro safety and or parking brake safety.

 

[danno676]

The weight of the Mahindra is 1819lb plus FEL 627lb Cost of $14479 plus VA tax $770= $15250
The weight of the Yanmar is 2127lb plus FEL ??? Cost of $10894 plus freight $700= $11594 ($3656 saved)

I am stuck between the 2310 and 2420, which are pretty close on price. Not real sure where I got my original numbers from, perhaps I was comparing the 2620d to the Mahindra.

I wouldn't think that with the following these tractors have that parts availability would be an issue, but I said that about my Wheel Horses and parts for them is a complete PITA and very expensive.

As for safety, again the tractor is coming from Fredericks so it will have the ROPS on it and I assume (??) a seat belt as well as they are required by the current CFR's. I was more making a joke about the vibration characteristics of the 2cyl that my wife would be using it, but in reality I can't see her doing much more than a joy ride around the yard. However if she can handle her car on a windy road race track, I hope she can handle a tractor. I do agree, safety is key and the Mahindra was built with this in mind, as well it is much lower therefor giving it a much lower center of gravity. I'm not sure if they integrate a seat switch at Fredericks..that being said, I have disabled the seat, hydra and pto on our "go to" Wheel Horse.

I may price the Max from Fredericks as a package with trailer and FEL, drive out there "light truck" and tow it back..sell the trailer and be done with it. The money I save on fuel and the aggravation of towing an empty trailer might outweigh the loss I would take on the trailer in the long run. That sound like a good idea anyway.

 

[kenmac]

I wouldn't know the tax difference in the 2 states.. If you buy here , I don't think you pay tax in your state.. Well, I can tell you,, some parts are a no go on the yanmars..I guess for a price,you could always have the part made..1 member broke a part for his fwd drop down box... I don't know if he ever found that part, or made something that would work. The part was/is no longer available.. I own a yanmar.. I sure hope I can get parts when something breaks.. I've got too much $$$ tied up in this thing

 

[danno676]

Ugh, now you have me worried....
I know if you have it delivered out of state, there is no sales tax(Buy from GA have them deliver to VA or elsewhere). I do not have to pay sales tax in VA unless I am titling something, like a car, in this case no VA tax.

There is always salvage yard parts for the Yanmars and no one can foresee the future with parts availability for the Mahindra either.

Eh, many variables...

 

[careyo63]

Parts availability is one reason I bought US. model Ym2000. I purchased it in 2/08 ASIS. and so far the only thing that I had to do was rebuild the starter in 2011. 75$ Maint. Wally World and Napa. for Fluid and filters.
I use a JD. 5103 and have no issues with the Noise or Vibration of the 2000. From the complaints I hear match to the type of Music people listen to now a days and they need to turn that !!! down.
Nothing compared to one of my old Harley's or 2cyl.Triumphs. IMO. something about the vibration in the seat the ladies actually seem to like :laughing:
I enjoy mowing on the 2000 and it's so much easier. If I'm on a open field the JD. is faster but nowhere near as nice of a Job. Both using the same Implement a FM. With only 2' if that per pass more really isn't much unless you in Hundreds of acres. Time wise. Fuel wise the 2000 will run all day on a Gal. of Diesel which is another factor. IMO. don't rule out the 2cyl. Seriously Mines not that loud.

 

[danno676]

I believe I read in to things too much, over analyzing.

Yeah, my wife loved being on the tail of my Ducati (v-twin) haha.

After doing the numbers last night, it is hard to justify the extra $3600 for the new machine with the frequency that it would be used, even if I did branch out and do some light contracting work during my time off.

I have a 2 cyl yanmar in a sailboat and it is a bit louder and more rattley than the 3 cyl kubota that Ive been using, but then again that is when listening to it when I am inside the cabin with the engine cover off.

I read that people say parts availability for the 2310/2420 is pretty good but it the F/FX models that are to worry about. I don't intend on any type of heavy work with this thing. A friend of mine was just rear ended on his Kubota by a motorcycle, the dealership had to piece his tractor back together with other models because parts were no longer available for his. I would say that's the risk for any older tractor/car. One time I broke the steering knucle on my 78 F250, after trying every salvage yard in VA and branching out to each yard's recommendation the part was finally found at an employee's back yard in Utah. All part of owning an older machine.

Your YM2000 is easy to get repair parts for?

 

[careyo63]

I believe it's the easiest and most common model. BTW. I seen the Va. and Bel Air Md. before coming to Ga. for me. I don't believe the travel to Al. would be a problem at all. I haven't been to Fredricks in yrs. but it's easy to get to IMO. That's a dove tail the 2000 in my pic. 7000 Lbs.. I sold it and only use a 16' 3500Lbs. single with a drop gate. Works great and I can haul the FM. hooked up also. Can hardly tell it's behind My 01 F-250.

 

[kenmac]

I haven't had any issues with my 3110.. I feel if something should break, that I do have other tractor models to look at for parts.. Mine 3110 shares parts with a yanmar 3810 and a JD 950 AND 1050. But, even these jd tractors are on up in age..
I just hope never break a major hard to get part and I should be ok

 

[danno676]

Looking at Fredericks website, what would be the difference between the ym2000d and ym2210d, other than horsepower? Parts availability?
The next step up being 2310 is a big jump in price, features seem to be the same but 3 cyl, more power and newer production. As long as repair parts are not an issue I'm fine with whatever and power wise any of them will suffice.

 

[careyo63]

2Hp. and powershift. 2Hp. probly not even noticeable. Which I Rarely/Hardly Ever do I even Run Over 2000 Rpms. with either mower. I believe Full Throttle is 2900 rpms. If your using a FEL. the power shift comes in real handy. Parts My guess on either shouldn't be a problem.

 

[danno676]

3110 waaay too big for my needs, I have always been a fan of 'bigger is better' but not in this instance. I would think that with places like Fredericks, Hoye and a mass of others that replacement parts should be available for years to come, that and the cross over to JD models. Just realizing the limitations of an older tractor and working within them.

My 02 F250 diesel would definitely tote the little thing just fine, the trailer I have is a bit on the big side for the job but oh well.

 

[danno676]

2Hp. and powershift. 2Hp. probly not even noticeable. Which I Rarely/Hardly Ever do I even Run Over 2000 Rpms. with either mower. I believe Full Throttle is 2900 rpms. If your using a FEL. the power shift comes in real handy.

I'd probably swing for the 2210 just for the powershift option since the main reason for getting the tractor is for the FEL, now just narrow down between 22/23/24....

 

[kenmac]

Well, You talked about driving down ..Drive down and take a look..He'll let you drive them around and try them out..Then you can decide which 1 you want..

They hadn't been in business long when I bought my 3110 from them..

Drove up waited for them to re assemble the tractor, drove it around a bit, and brought it home..

Tom Fredricks quit his job as an engineer at NASA in Huntsville AL. ,And started importing tractors.

 

[danno676]

I will drive down and pick one out, unless I find a better deal on one closer to me on a used one...being careful to try and stay away from the VN ones.
Interesting about the NASA background and good to know you , and others, have had suck a good experience with them.

 

[kenmac]

They are about 2 hrs form me.. Tom developed many of the after market parts for these yanmar tractors.. even developed /paid for testing for the 1 ST OSHA certified ROPS for yanmars.

 

[clemsonfor]

Hoye is also making NLA parts for these yanmars.

 

[SnPaC]

I will drive down and pick one out, unless I find a better deal on one closer to me on a used one...being careful to try and stay away from the VN ones.
Interesting about the NASA background and good to know you , and others, have had suck a good experience with them.

This has been a great thread; I'm looking at a similar range of machines..at the moment the 2420D; i too have looked at the Max28XL, but the YM's are appealing.
Steve (Bedford Va)

 

[bmaverick]

After my JohnDeere 850 died, I spent some time with a local diesel garage looking for a replacement engine. In the long run of the saga, I happened across Fredricks that could just swap the engine that died with a restored 3T80. After looking at the poor condition of the JD850, it was smarter to just trade it in on the YM2610. The YM2610 is the PowerShift version of the JD850. I tried a YM2500 (aka the JD850 stick/gear shifting), but immediately fell in love with the PowerShift. Plus, this also meant my wife and dad could drive it when needed.

The YM2610 being a near clone with the JD850 has benefits of knowing that the JD service manuals and parts are more readily available. Plus, I can cross-reference accessories too.

On a personal note, I had spent about 5-hours at Fredricks. I saw first hand the clean operation and setup. They have their act together totally. Machines are rebuilt in a disciplined manner while structured from phase to phase much like an assembly line, but with equal care to quality throughout. It's not easy to say it in words without writing a long worded essay on the restore process. The Fredricks operation is not a mom-n-pop or overnight whim. It's a full fledged operations. Everything is neat and orderly. Even with the unloading of the large shipping containers, the tractors are inventoried and placed in the restoration cycle lines per models and makes.

One other thing to note. What Fredricks has listed on their website for tractor inventory is very modest to say at best. Take the website inventory and multiply that by 20X. There are hundreds of tractors onsite!

Fredricks will even restore John Deere Yanmars too. He was mine after the restore. If you would had seen how pathetic the JD850 was, you would be shocked. That JD850 should have went to the scrap yard, not due to rust, but the dents and twisting broken lights and rotted tires made it really ugly along with the cracked head and block that the previous owner neglected.

 

[bmaverick]

For comparing the YM2610 to a YM3110, there is a slight Hp advantage with the YM3110. Yet, the price is very attractive with the YM2610. The YM2610 size works well too. Not too big, not too small either.

If you are still in a price crunch, the YM2000 has the 2TR20-A 2-cly engine. The YM2210 has the 2T90. Both are good machines. There are other machines there at Fredricks not even listed. It would be best to visit and see what other models you could choose from for the value of the dollars you have.

 

[SnPaC]

I will drive down and pick one out, unless I find a better deal on one closer to me on a used one...being careful to try and stay away from the VN ones.
Interesting about the NASA background and good to know you , and others, have had suck a good experience with them.

danno676.....Did you ever get down there and test drive one?