Questions for 3x20/300cx owners

[tomd999]

Hiya,

Questions:

1) Will it lift 2000 Lb pallet loads with a set of forks to/from pickup truck height?

2) How does it drive with max load on the loader? (My 2520 starts to let you know when it's lifting 80% of it's max)

3) Does it work well scooping heavy material from a pile with 61" HD bucket with either the tooth bar or the bolt on edge? (My 2520 with the 61" material bucket will stall the loader in moist loam or knitpack.)

OK, thanks in advance,

Tom

 

[nmu98]

Hiya,

Questions:

1) Will it lift 2000 Lb pallet loads with a set of forks to/from pickup truck height?

2) How does it drive with max load on the loader? (My 2520 starts to let you know when it's lifting 80% of it's max)

3) Does it work well scooping heavy material from a pile with 61" HD bucket with either the tooth bar or the bolt on edge? (My 2520 with the 61" material bucket will stall the loader in moist loam or knitpack.)

OK, thanks in advance,

Tom

I am sure you will get some varried answers. But I have a 4110 and a 3720, so I might be able to see this from both sides.

1. I do not think you can lift 2K from a truck bed with forks. You have to add in the weight of the forks. I will say no, it will not. I have picked up an 1800+ pound pallet out of my truck, but I had to use the curl cyl to lift it.

2. It drives heavy in the front with max on the loader. I am really ballasted well and I know when I have weight up there, but it steers well. It handles load better than the 4110 would at the same % of max. But my 4110 has turfs, and they do not like to lift, as they pancake.

3. There is no comparison as to lifting dirt or scooping. I have a 72" bucket on the 3720 and I can fill it and lift it. I can burry it in a pile if I want, but with some skill I can load a full bucket easily without ever stalling the loader.

Maybe you should look at a 4120 or 4320. They would be better at the jobs you ask about!

 

[WH401]

1. Can't say, I haven't had to lift that kind of weight yet.

2. I would say any tractor, if the loader is at max load, is going to let you know when it's got a heavy load. Just make sure you've got proper ballast as the biggest problem is front end stress. As long as you do that, it should work to it's full potential.

3. I have the 61" and no matter what bucket you have, the loader is either going to lift it or it's not, there really is no question there.

Based on the questions, it sounds like your going to be on the upper spectrum of the 300cx's load capacity. I agree with Nmu that a 4x20 series tractor will probably be better suited for you. Its always better to have a margin of more capacity, than almost or under.

 

[Nuru]

Sounds like a 4x20 for you. However, if you can cut that weight down a little it will do it.

 

[tglass]

Tried lifting a ton off my pickup last fall with the 3320/heavy counterweight just to see. Got the weight off the truck at higher RPM and 4wd ingaged to be able to move. Little too much for the sized tractor,but I did manage to get it off (never again). The rest of the pallets I took 5-600 lbs. off and it handled it, but still had to be careful when not close to the ground. Loader with the bucket on doesn't have a problem. Think with the forks it's just too much weight hanging out too far and a little more than it's made to do.

 

[JB4310]

Hiya,

Questions:

1) Will it lift 2000 Lb pallet loads with a set of forks to/from pickup truck height?

2) How does it drive with max load on the loader? (My 2520 starts to let you know when it's lifting 80% of it's max)

3) Does it work well scooping heavy material from a pile with 61" HD bucket with either the tooth bar or the bolt on edge? (My 2520 with the 61" material bucket will stall the loader in moist loam or knitpack.)

OK, thanks in advance,

Tom

Answers,
1) No, that's several hundred pounds over it's capacity, I've tried lifting pallets of bagged concrete mix, I think it was 16-18 80LB bags max.

2) It's OK, but whenever your your at capacity there is no room for error and you will feel it.

3) Yes, it will be better than your smaller machine was, proper technique helps but using load match will prevent it from stalling regardless

Good luck,
JB.

 

[turbo36]

Answers,
1) No, that's several hundred pounds over it's capacity, I've tried lifting pallets of bagged concrete mix, I think it was 16-18 80LB bags max.

2) It's OK, but whenever your your at capacity there is no room for error and you will feel it.

3) Yes, it will be better than your smaller machine was, proper technique helps but using load match will prevent it from stalling regardless

Good luck,
JB.

Are you making this statement based on your 4310 or have you tried it with the 3000 series tractor? I had a 4410 before I got the 3720 on the day the 3720 was delivered just for fun I lifted a pallet of paver's with both tractors and was surprised that the 4410 couldn't pick the load off the trailer but the 3720 could . I believe the weight was around 1,800 to 2,000 lbs. I couldn't lift it full height but I got it off the trailer.

 

[JB4310]

Are you making this statement based on your 4310 or have you tried it with the 3000 series tractor? I had a 4410 before I got the 3720 on the day the 3720 was delivered just for fun I lifted a pallet of paver's with both tractors and was surprised that the 4410 couldn't pick the load off the trailer but the 3720 could . I believe the weight was around 1,800 to 2,000 lbs. I couldn't lift it full height but I got it off the trailer.

That was strictly based on my experience with my 4310, which originally came with a 430 loader rated at +/- 1250#.
After about 6 months of owning the tractor I found a dealer that let me trade up to the 300cx loader for a fair price, mainly for the extra lifting capacity which I think is around 1500-1600#.
I didn't realize the loaders rated capacity changes on different machines.

JB.

 

[turbo36]

That was strictly based on my experience with my 4310, which originally came with a 430 loader rated at +/- 1250#.
After about 6 months of owning the tractor I found a dealer that let me trade up to the 300cx loader for a fair price, mainly for the extra lifting capacity which I think is around 1500-1600#.
I didn't realize the loaders rated capacity changes on different machines.

JB.

I didn't realize you had the 300 loader, my 4410 had the old loader. I know that I could pick up 2,200 lbs off the ground and transport it because I was moving pallets of the "step stones" that weighed 550 lbs. each - 4 on a pallet.

 

[nmu98]

I didn't realize you had the 300 loader, my 4410 had the old loader. I know that I could pick up 2,200 lbs off the ground and transport it because I was moving pallets of the "step stones" that weighed 550 lbs. each - 4 on a pallet.

You might get 2K off the ground, but you will not get it to truck height as the OP asked! Been there, and its a no go.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

To the question of will it lift from the pickup truck the answer is yes. I have a 3320 with the 300x loader and have on several occasion lift 2200lbs of retaining wall blocks on a pallet from the back of my truck bed down to the ground. I wasn't able to lift it more than a few feet back up after it was lowered. So you cx will lift the load enough up off the bed to allow you to clear the bed and lower. I would not recommend this on a regular basis but every now and again should be ok.

Matt

 

[nmu98]

To the question of will it lift from the pickup truck the answer is yes. I have a 3320 with the 300x loader and have on several occasion lift 2200lbs of retaining wall blocks on a pallet from the back of my truck bed down to the ground. I wasn't able to lift it more than a few feet back up after it was lowered. So you cx will lift the load enough up off the bed to allow you to clear the bed and lower. I would not recommend this on a regular basis but every now and again should be ok.

Matt

You have a stronger loader on your machine than both my old open station 3720 with the 300cx and my new cab with the 300cx....... Hats off.... I could lift 1800 with the curl, but the normal way to get it off the truck. That pallet was weighed and exact, not a guestimate.......

 

[radman1]

I have a 1400 lb tree spade and my 3720 with 300cx FEL, will just lift it about a foot. I had a cab tractor with 700 lb mower on back with additional 300lbs of suitcase weights also on the mower. Back end was still light. It will curl the spade back. A tree spade hangs a little farther out the front than a pallet. However, a 2000 lb pallet will also have the additional weight of the forks, probably another 300-400 lbs. I also have turned up my hydraulics to near 2800-2900 psi. I don't think my 3720 with 300cx will lift a 2000 lb pallet to any significant height, even with my turned up hydraulics.

My Toolcat is rated for 1500lbs but will lift my tree spade to full height. (It is widely known the Toolcat can lift 2000 lbs to full height).

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I should add that I did need to curl slightly to lift it. My weight was exact also I was suprized that I was able to lift it. Keep in mind I only lifted it an inch or so off the bed and then lowered it. I was able to move the pallet around after but would only lift it a foot or so. I'm no mathimatician but I beleive that geometry comes in play during the weigh equations. So that maybe why more lift force is attained during different stages of the arch of the loader.

Matt

 

[Nuru]

To the question of will it lift from the pickup truck the answer is yes. I have a 3320 with the 300x loader and have on several occasion lift 2200lbs of retaining wall blocks on a pallet from the back of my truck bed down to the ground. I wasn't able to lift it more than a few feet back up after it was lowered. So you cx will lift the load enough up off the bed to allow you to clear the bed and lower. I would not recommend this on a regular basis but every now and again should be ok.

Matt

That is impressive. i have not tried anything large and heavy yet with my 300cx. BTW, what size bucket do you have?

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I have a 61" bucket on the 300x. I have horst pallet forks. I'm going to modify the top guard of the forks since I don't like the look and I'll shave a little weight. I was impressed that I lifted the load and I didn't calculate the weight till after. I should have know the pallet weighed alot since I squated my superduty a bit. I would not regularly lift this much but it's good to know it's possible if needed. I think with careful operations and regular maintenance that no harm will come from using the loader abit above capacity.

Matt T.