Ranch Hand

[TractorData]

Is anyone familiar with Ranch Hand? They look a lot like Jinmas to me, but I'm no expert in the smaller tractors. It makes service a lot easier when you know what other models they can swap parts with.

I originally posted this in the Other Brands forum, and someone suggested that I move it here. Thanks for any help!

 

[Ranch_Hand_Supp]

Familiar with Ranch Hand Tractors .... No.

Looks like Foton to me.

Interesting statements on his/her site.

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply
East Coast Jinma Dealer.... just for the record.

 

[tat2z1969]

looked at that site, darn didn't know Chinese Fotons were made in America.
Sort of like bend over they will drive if you get my drift

 

[greg_g]

Definitely misleading to the uninformed buyer. Another outfit - Minot I think - does something similar, but slightly less misleading. Their claim is "ASSEMBLED WITH PRIDE IN INDIANA ". I guess that's technically true; tractors are imported partially assembled in crates, assembly and prep work is then (typically) completed by the importing dealer. But I'd say this RanchHand outfit crossed the line with the "Buy American, Buy a Ranch Hand Tractor " banner. [FONT=arial, helvetica, verdana][/FONT]

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

I hate to say it but that falls under Freedom Of Speech.

There is a guy in Washington State trying to sell Yuchai dozers that says the tracks can be adjusted with grease.

They will get away with it until someone calls them on it.

 

[greg_g]

I hate to say it but that falls under Freedom Of Speech.

No - actually I think consumer fraud laws trump freedom of speech

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

Greg, that may be true. However, "They will get away with it until someone calls them on it."

 

[Ronbo]

Give the man a break.

He says "On our DXL4452 and DXL4452C Models, Only 35% or less of what you pay for the tractor goes to Southeast Asia (Japan, China, Korea). The other 65% or more, goes to American Made Parts, American Labor, and American Freight.

On our DXL3402 Model, Only 30% or less of what you pay for the tractor goes to Southeast Asia (Japan, China, Korea). The other 70% or more, goes to American Made Parts, American Labor, and American Freight".

He must be replacing some bolts or wiring to qualify for American parts.

Ron

 

[greg_g]

Give the man a break.

He says "On our DXL4452 and DXL4452C Models, Only 35% or less of what you pay for the tractor goes to Southeast Asia (Japan, China, Korea). The other 65% or more, goes to American Made Parts, American Labor, and American Freight.

On our DXL3402 Model, Only 30% or less of what you pay for the tractor goes to Southeast Asia (Japan, China, Korea). The other 70% or more, goes to American Made Parts, American Labor, and American Freight".

He must be replacing some bolts or wiring to qualify for American parts.

Ron

Maybe even expensive American air in the tires ?

I didn't see those statements on the website myself. Had I, you'd have seen me turn tail and run the other way. What that tells me is that this outfit has a 65 to 70 percent markup over FOB China cost.

//greg//

 

[greg_g]

. What that tells me is that this outfit has a 65 to 70 percent markup over FOB China cost.

Oh, wait. Make that 65 to 70 percent markup over FOB California. I'm gonna bet those tractors travel under Chinese flag as least as far as Long Beach

//greg//

 

[Bob Rooks]

I'm gonna bet those tractors travel under Chinese flag as least as far as Long Beach
//greg//

That's true Greg. Chinese bottoms to all major single destination US Ports. Jones Act prohibits otherwise.

 

[bluechip]

If what they advertise has any truth to it at all, the tractors should have Goodyear or Titan tires, not chinese tires. Many imported tractors are fitted with rubber sourced (if not in fact manufactured) from US suppliers. My money is on the chinese rubber however... this would be a way to add some US content, perhaps 25% of cost.

 

[kenmac]

I sent an e-mail to this guy & he sent back a long e- mail saying ( I'll post some of the e-mail),.He buys engines from yanmar, transmissions from so korea drive components & sheet metal from china .Other parts come from so. korea, japan, china,canada,itily& yes the us. Front drive lines come in boxes marked jd. the same front axles in his tractors are used by kubota,cub,new holland & others. He went on to say that he is a ex vietnam vet & wants to bring jobs to the american worker.It appears that he is saying in part of the e- mail that. he buys tractors then disassembles them & installs bearings & other items that are made in the US

 

[Bob Rooks]

Syntax error? How can you be an "ex-veteran"?
I'm a veteran too and I haven't figured a way out of it.

 

[greg_g]

The mind boggles. Is it just me, or does anybody else have trouble applying that explanation to the website inference that these are "65-70% American tractors" ? And I don't really follow "jobs to the American worker" unless it's the handful of guys integrate a few parts of America origin into this slew of foreign origin parts.

I will say though, there's a good chance that a lot of the steel in today's Chinese tractors - was once American.

//greg//

 

[kenmac]

I will say though, there's a good chance that a lot of the steel in today's Chinese tractors - was once American.




You just may have something there. That's where he is getting buy American

 

[Bob Rooks]

That's right Greg. An awful lot of China's steel comes from Alang.

 

[kenmac]

My bad Bob Rooks. He's a disabled vietnam vet.

 

[greg_g]

My bad Bob Rooks. He's a disabled vietnam vet.

I retired from the military, after more than 20 years of honorable service - and my service connected disabilities currently total 70%. I'd be one of the very last to denigrate honest veterans - especially those disabled in service of their country. But there's something about this whole situation that doesn't sit right with me.

//greg//

 

[tat2z1969]

When a clown claims to be a disabled vet and uses that to sell his product, you can bet he is full of crap just like his claim to Sell American made tractors.
I am a disabled Vietnam Vet and one of my sons is a Iraq disabled Vet and it really pisses me off when some jerk says that crap, the POW/ MIA web site is full of jerks who claim to be disabled vets or hero's. They are a disgrace.