Rear blade decision

fried1765 · Jan 30, 2020

EA sells their ETA-XD-6way-Sblade-96 (8') HD Deluxe Scrape blade for $2021.
Free shipping!
Almost $900 less than your Land Pride quote!
I have their smaller 6 way scrape blade, and it is an EXCELLENT piece of equipment!

MtnViewRanch · Jan 30, 2020

NHGunowner said:
A local quoted me $2900 on all manual Landpride RBT3596. 2-3 weeks. Unless something appears on the used market (there have been none local in the weeks I've looked) that is probably the way I go.

Something that you might want to check on. Purchasing the RBT3596 with no adjusters for the blade angle and offset functions. Don't forget the skid shoes though. LP gets some $$$ for their manual adjusters. It might be possible or at least very close that you would be able to purchase 3rd party cylinders for about the same cost as the LP manual adjusters for the blade angle and offset. The tilt is just a ratchet and is about $60.

Just something that you might want to consider. :scratchchin:

I put welded cylinders on my RBT45108 instead of the tie rod units that most manufacturers use.

FredSG · Feb 3, 2020

Hi,

My Land Pride RBT3596 was delivered to me yesterday, Saturday, 2/2/2020. It took about 5 weeks from the time I ordered it from the local Kubota dealer. Thanks Brian for your recommendation to get it . . . it has the angle, tilt, and offset functions with those three functions hooked up to my 4th & 5th SCV outlets. I decided to order it with the manual diverter that sits on top of the rear blade main horizontal column. Pricing was more than for the EA Land Shark Deluxe 96" Rear Blade. Base Price seemed to be in line with the Woods and Frontier models and then you have to add in the price for hydraulic setups . . . the offset function on the Land Pride is really impressive, especially when you see my driveway and how I plan to widen it to make snow removal that much easier for me. I ordered my Land pride with the skid shoes, as per Brian's suggestion. My tractor is a John Deere 4052R.

FredSG

FredSG

MtnViewRanch · Feb 3, 2020

Thanks for the update Fred. Now we need a few pictures, both all nice and clean if it still is, and some action shots.

BMan2005 · Feb 3, 2020

MtnViewRanch said:
Something that you might want to check on. Purchasing the RBT3596 with no adjusters for the blade angle and offset functions. Don't forget the skid shoes though. LP gets some $$$ for their manual adjusters. It might be possible or at least very close that you would be able to purchase 3rd party cylinders for about the same cost as the LP manual adjusters for the blade angle and offset. The tilt is just a ratchet and is about $60.

Just something that you might want to consider. :scratchchin:

I put welded cylinders on my RBT45108 instead of the tie rod units that most manufacturers use.

I did just what he suggested and the Hydraulic cylinders He built were basically the same price as the manual adjustments and definitely stout. Mind us a land pride 4096

oosik · Feb 3, 2020

I had an 8 foot Land Pride rear blade. It weighed right around 575#. Better than sliced bread for winter snow clearing. Just too darn light to penetrate my mile long gravel driveway in the summer. My driveway turns to concrete when it dries out in the summer.

So I bought a new Rhino 950. Its 8 feet and weighs 1050#. Now I have to be careful or I can, quite easily, rip up the driveway - right down to the bedrock.

Class 2 implements are nice but they do have a price. Brand new in 2017 - $3650. And that's the 100% manual model.View attachment 639958

FredSG · Feb 3, 2020

Hello,

Here are photos of my Land Pride RBT 3596. The Angle function is hooked up to my 4th SCV, and the Offset and Tilt functions are hooked up to the manual diverter and to the 5th SCV. Right now, I've got the manual diverter set to work with the Offset function. By flipping the lever on the manual diverter I can work the Tilt function, which will probably be used the least in the driveway work I have planned for this Spring.

Thanks again to Brian (Mountain View Ranch) for his frequent Email help in understanding hydraulics and for suggesting the RBT 3596 . . . now if I could only convince him to help me some more by subsidizing the cost!

MtnViewRanch · Feb 3, 2020

Looks good Fred.

NHGunowner · Feb 5, 2020

I ordered the RBT3596 yesterday.
$3550 for hyd angle, manual offset and tilt. And skid shoes.
I'll probably be seeing Brian for an offset cylinder this summer if/when I add/divert more remotes. Thanks for the advice, looking forward to using and hoping no snow till I have it!

ovrszd · Feb 5, 2020

MtnViewRanch said:
Thanks for the update Fred. Now we need a few pictures, both all nice and clean if it still is, and some action shots.

Agreed.

johnnyvol · May 24, 2020

Bumping this thread instead of starting another. I'm looking at the blades mentioned earlier (LP, Woods, Bison..etc)

I previously had a Bush hog 176-10 with skid shoes and I never felt like they did what I expected them to do. This time I'm looking at the tailwheel option. Anyone have experience with that set up?

Thanks,

John

FTG-05 · May 24, 2020

Question for those with grader blade hydraulics: What size cylinder do you have or should you use for the angle function? I have the EA ED 8' grader blade and that's the function I would like to change "on the move".

Thanks,

i7win7 · May 24, 2020

Have a 2.5x8 on a 7' land pride for sideways swing function. Have to move cylinder for opposite swing.
Measure pin to pin spacing (middle of cylinder stroke) on you blade, then measure spacing on retracted cylinders in store, add 1/2 of stroke value, get as close to your center measurement as possible for blade angling.

MtnViewRanch · May 24, 2020

FTG-05 said:
Question for those with grader blade hydraulics: What size cylinder do you have or should you use for the angle function? I have the EA ED 8' grader blade and that's the function I would like to change "on the move".

Thanks,

Depending on the blade, but Land Pride uses 2", 3 1/2" & 4" cylinders. The RBT blades use 3 1/2" & 4" dia cylinders. You can probably get by with a 3" dia cylinder with a 1 1/2" dia rod. That gets you around 10,000lbs of pushing power on the rod side.

I have 4" cylinders on my RBT45108. But then I'm running a 13,000lb machine.

Fladogman · May 24, 2020

My uncle has an old Ford blade with the tail wheel and it works great. He prefers it over a box blade for road work. I just bought a blade and will be adding a tail wheel on it in the future. I can't understand why they're not more popular nowadays like they were years ago.

FTG-05 · May 24, 2020

MtnViewRanch said:
Depending on the blade, but Land Pride uses 2", 3 1/2" & 4" cylinders. The RBT blades use 3 1/2" & 4" dia cylinders. You can probably get by with a 3" dia cylinder with a 1 1/2" dia rod. That gets you around 10,000lbs of pushing power on the rod side.

I have 4" cylinders on my RBT45108. But then I'm running a 13,000lb machine.

Excellent. Thank you!

FTG-05 · May 24, 2020

i7win7 said:
Have a 2.5x8 on a 7' land pride for sideways swing function. Have to move cylinder for opposite swing.
Measure pin to pin spacing (middle of cylinder stroke) on you blade, then measure spacing on retracted cylinders in store, add 1/2 of stroke value, get as close to your center measurement as possible for blade angling.

Currently, there is no pin-to-pin spacing since there there are no pins on the EA ED blade. I have to fabricate them all. But the first question was cylinder size. Everything follows from that.

Thanks,

MtnViewRanch · May 24, 2020

FTG-05 said:
Currently, there is no pin-to-pin spacing since there there are no pins on the EA ED blade. I have to fabricate them all. But the first question was cylinder size. Everything follows from that.

Thanks,

I would get at a minimum of a 12 stroke cylinder. The longer the cylinder, the easier it is too make a fine adjustment. An RBT 35 series uses a 14" stroke unit and an RBT40 series uses a 16" stroke unit.