Rear Loader

[Steadite]

Does anyone know about this type of rear 3 pt hitch loader shown in the attached photo. This particular one is made by Westendorf and the price is quite reasonable relative to a front loader (it's just over a grand). I'm wondering how well it works (light digging) and how easy it is to get on and off. I'd be putting it on a JD X585.

Thanks

 

[RonR]

Don't know about anyone else, but my neck would hurt like heck running that thing more than about 15 minutes. Now if you go to the effort to turn your seat around and can SAFELY operate it that way, it might be very good!

I like my FEL since its way out front and I can see it easily (and painlessly).

My two cents.
ron

 

[johnk]

Seems like it would be a lot of work with a rear loader. If you aren't going to use it hour after hour I guess it would be a cheap solution.

 

[Garrabo]

cool device but my chiropractor would have to be on board with me /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jim_wilson]

What is the model # on that loader? I looked on the Westendorf web site and could not find a loader that seems to match the one in the picture. The only rear mount loader I could find was for Cat2 and Cat3 3pt's -which would be too big for your X585..

 

[jinman]

Notice in your picture how clean the bucket looks and how empty it is? That kinda says something about how well it works. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I think you could also just go ahead and beat up the fender wells of the pickup with a sledge hammer because they will get really beat up after two or three "oops" with that loader. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I just don't see it being used as shown as practical and for moving small amounts of materials and dirt, I'd prefer the 3PH dirtscoop. Even with a loader, it's easy to bump the side of a high vehicle like a dump truck or even a trailer when loading from a FEL that has much more clearance than this little 3PH dumper.

 

[slowrev]

Your 3 point hitch is not really engineered to push backwards with. Might have some bent lower arms and such using that rear loader.

Ben

 

[RayMunising]

Here's a link to the webpage
http://www.westendorfmfg.com/auto-dump.html
Not much info but kinda interesting. Falls someplace between a dirt scoop and a FEL both in function and price.

It ?seems? like the 3pt would handle it. No different then pushing with a 3pt blade or pushing with a dirt scoop. I'm sure if you really tried you could do some damage though. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[SkogenMe]

I don't know about the westerdorf loader but I had a farmi model 351 model for over ten years and loved it...so much so I kept the "snow" bucket and hope sometime to make a Quick Attach adapter to use on the rear of my new tractor. You could load that bucket really quickly and transport material over long distances without any balance issues....lifting a 20cubic foot bucket full of gravel to 10 feet high without any weight on the front was another issue tho! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I never had any issues with bending the 3pth arms and it surely got stressed pretty hard loading gravel....but realized after owning the tractor for many years that I think the arms had been reinforced but the previous owner (they had 1/2 bar welded to the bottom to make a kind of inverted tee).
Again...for me this was a great implement. With an 8' plow on the front and the big bucket on the back you could move alot of snow. For landscaping it was great, you could move the material in the bucket then spread and level the material with another full bucket of material just dragging behind the tractor. It was like an instant grader blade with gauge wheels(I actually let my brother have my grader blade on long term loan because I didn't use it any more)...
The only low point was that because the storage stand leg had been broken off before I got it and because the 3pth arm ends weren't adjustable like on my new tractor...it could be a little work to get on and off.
Have fun
3pth loader

 

[kayssupply]

I second the pond scoop. $250 or less. If you don't like it, you aren't in so deep. If you need more, get the front loader.

 

[Steadite]

Thanks for all the help guys!

 

[Regal]

Have you seen this loader? I would take a close look at it before deciding. From the photo you attached it looks to me like you have no choice as to when it dumps. It appears to have a chain linkage to the bucket and as you reach a determined height it tips the bucket whether your ready or not. On the site that was posted it also refers to it as an AUTO DUMP. I think that would make it quite non user friendly. IMO

 

[wolc123]

I used a homemade rear loader for a while. I made mine by attaching a 3-point lift boom to the top link attach pt of a 3-point scoop and extending the lower links with angle iron to connect to the lower attach pts of the scoop. Cost was about $400 including a lower link that I broke once on my ford 2000. I used this rig to load a manure spreader about 50 times and it worked well for this. I also loaded a single axle dump truck with dirt about 20 times (it worked but this is where I broke the lower link arm), and a 5-ton trailer with crushed stone about 20 times (also worked good for this). This rig took a fair ammount of hydraulic power to operate (my 8n could only lift the empty scoop) and some front weights to offset the load. I would say that it beats the heck out of a shovel or pitchfork but not nearly as good as a front loader on a fwd (what I use these days). On a 2wd it might approach the efficiency of a front loader as the loaded scoop adds to your traction rather than subtacts like the front bucket.

 

[slowrev]

I alwasy wondered why the rear scoops were called pond scoops. A sure way to get stuck bad /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ben

 

[DickThomas]

RE: ". . .why the rear scoops were called pond scoops . . ." Most likely because they are styled after the old fashioned, horse-drawn scoops used to build ponds! They had a pair of handles similar to a wheelbarrow's, and the operator - my granddad - walked behind with the reins over his shoulder. Controlled the team by voice, adjusted the scoop by hand, and built a heck of a farm cattle pond! (It was a few days ago - I got to ride on the horse!)

 

[DrewL]

I can see it's use. An older tractor with no power steering available or cost prohibative power steering kits. Other than that /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[crazymike]

I have experience with rear mount loaders on versatiles. If you have a reversing controls they are 100x more productive. You can see your work load as the loader is right there. Your vision field is far superior. It also puts weight on the rear of the tractor rather than the front end.

As for the 3pt hitch frame stress. We plow snow with 3PTH mount implements all the time on bigger tractors.

 

[Nuru]

This device looks kinda interesting, and for 1k or less it actually might be a good deal. But I also have a Dirt Scoop and it works pretty well. But, I would consider giving that read small loaded a whirl. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif