Reducing pollution is contributing to global warming?

[Raul-02]

This article seems to be based on no data, no scientists mentioned and no sources.

The link to this study is clearly there in the article https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

 

[SgtSluggo]

The quote I cited was from one of the brightest minds (genius) of modern times...Richard Feynman

Richard Feynman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am not exactly sure what you are saying here, but I don't Feynman meant what you think he meant. Here is the transcript from that entire speech if anyone wants to read it: What Is Science?

if the data does not fit the theory...change the data"

Einstein definitely never said this, and it is likely that no actual scientist or person worth quoting actually said this. It is likely that the original was:
There’s an age-old adage “if the facts don’t fit the theory, change the theory”. But all too often it’s easier to change the facts
but that has been distorted over the years.

 

[Raul-02]

The quote I cited was from one of the brightest minds (genius) of modern times

one of the more frustrating things that thrives in the world we live in is that just because a person is smart; brilliant even, doesn't mean they are right about much. That doesn't mean they have any common sense. Doesn't mean much at all.
Herman Goering was brilliant
****** was a fabulous leader.
They weren't right about anything.

 

[/pine]

I am not exactly sure what you are saying here, but I don't Feynman meant what you think he meant. Here is the transcript from that entire speech if anyone wants to read it:
Einstein definitely never said this, and it is likely that no actual scientist or person worth quoting actually said this. It is likely that the original was:
There’s an age-old adage “if the facts don’t fit the theory, change the theory”. But all too often it’s easier to change the facts
but that has been distorted over the years.

First off you can't be sure if A.E. said it or not...just because you couldn't find it on google...secondly he (Einstein) was known to be quite sarcastic and often made fun of colleagues work...

I'm quite familiar with Feynmen and his work and citing the quote from that particular context is moot...He went on to use the line in several lectures where the term was used literally...(many of his lectures are on YT)...

FWIW...there's a TV movie about him (played by William Hurt) called "The Challenger Disaster" (which he was right about...and proved it...!)

The Challenger Disaster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[/pine]

one of the more frustrating things that thrives in the world we live in is that just because a person is smart; brilliant even, doesn't mean they are right about much. That doesn't mean they have any common sense. Doesn't mean much at all.
Herman Goering was brilliant
****** was a fabulous leader.
They weren't right about anything.

When it comes to Fenyman...his legacy speaks for itself...

 

[Raul-02]

When it comes to Fenyman...his legacy speaks for itself...

Don't expect me to run him down, or up I never heard the name before this thread.

 

[/pine]

Don't expect me to run him down, or up I never heard the name before this thread.

Doesn't surprise me...!

 

[Raul-02]

Doesn't surprise me...!

don't be rude. I wasn't STEM

 

[/pine]

don't be rude. I wasn't STEM

See my sig...!

 

[Larry Caldwell]

There is a link to this site for the "study." https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

The reasonable thing to do if you challenge one nation's conclusions is to look for others.

http://www.climatecost.cc/images/Policy_brief_1_Projections_05_lowres.pdf

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Let's keep religion out of it...or is that your only recourse when you learn that most of what you believe about (man made) climate change is a bunch of lies..?

Religion aside, denialism is a classic case of not getting the message. How many 1000 year storms per year will it take to change your mind? I doubt it will ever happen. As long as you stay in the shallow end, you should be fine.

 

[/pine]

It's really NOT a "nation's conclusion"....it really boils down to a political bias conclusion...which has no real evidence that has not been altered (tainted)...
You have to follow the money...Just because one party in power makes a decree does not make it a "national conclusion"...(except for maybe france)
And ANYONE that gets paid for work they do in the climate field is biased...no ifs, ands or buts...!
You may have to go through several layers of separation but eventually the source of the money will be revealed in a majority of cases...

 

[/pine]

Religion aside, denialism is a classic case of not getting the message. How many 1000 year storms per year will it take to change your mind? I doubt it will ever happen. As long as you stay in the shallow end, you should be fine.

The only thing classic about the subject is how gullible so many people are that they don't realize they are the victims of believing something just because it has been repeated ad nauseam...they think it's true...

Please tell me exactly who is denying that the planet's climate is changing ??? who are these people ?...

FYI the planet's climate has been changing since its formation...the people that are not "getting the message" are the ones that don't realize this and have to have someone or something to blame...

 

[Hay Dude]

Religion aside, denialism is a classic case of not getting the message. How many 1000 year storms per year will it take to change your mind? I doubt it will ever happen. As long as you stay in the shallow end, you should be fine.

Maybe the frequency of 1000 year storms has increased because of natural reasons, and nothing to do with man?

Also: Ever consider the severity of the storms and their impact on man is elevated more than ever because the population of the planet has increased, with more people occupying more locations subject to severe weather conditions?

Coasts, cliffs, mountainsides, etc.?

 

[Torvy]

Religion aside, denialism is a classic case of not getting the message. How many 1000 year storms per year will it take to change your mind? I doubt it will ever happen. As long as you stay in the shallow end, you should be fine.

Just because the media calls a storm 1000 year storm is enough evidence for a thinking person to know they are blowing smoke. We don't have 1000 years of good data. Heck, we don't have 200 years of good data.

 

[Raul-02]

See my sig...!

not an excuse for being impolite. More a cover for being crass.

 

[Raul-02]

As long as you stay in the shallow end, you should be fine.

The idea that people who don't share one's worldview are stupid is not a terribly enlightened position. It's more of a rolling ad hominem.

 

[Hay Dude]

Just because the media calls a storm 1000 year storm is enough evidence for a thinking person to know they are blowing smoke. We don't have 1000 years of good data. Heck, we don't have 200 years of good data.

Thats a very overlooked point and why I am VERY skeptical of these weather change claims

 

[kenmbz]

The link to this study is clearly there in the article https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

Yep-they point back to their own "research" as data

 

[Doughknob]

LoL...there is nothing made up...geeze...you are the one in denial (it's not a river in Africa)...
Just because it debunks everything you THOUGHT was true does not make it fake...
There is NOTHING fake about them "adjusting" temperature data...it is 100% FACT...get over it and realize your gullibility has led you down the wrong path...!

Now now lil piney. Its OK. I know it hurts. Mommy will be home soon.