Retaining walls and patio

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Nice to see that you used chairs for the rebar. That's my biggest issue with concrete. Why didn't you install the rebar along the edges?
 
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Nice to see that you used chairs for the rebar. That's my biggest issue with concrete. Why didn't you install the rebar along the edges?

No reason really. I guess we could have. Hopefully the combination of the rebar, big rock concrete, the thickness being average about 5", the sections only being 6', and using control joints will be enough the keep it in tact.
 
   / Retaining walls and patio #283  
You can avoid engineering on a 10 ft retaining wall in Washington if you go with those decorative ecology block sized bricks. But even then you still need a good base and a drainage plan (French Drain) and moisture barrier or you'll likely be sorry. Poured concrete 10 ft high retaining walls have their share of pitfalls too. I've seen some catastrophic failures with those in wet areas. No matter how you do it, a 10 ft high retaining wall is a serious wall that needs careful attention to detail.
I am planning it to be terraced with some planting space between, so two 5' walls, but it still needs engineering. The engineers are backlogged but I am in no hurry. Absolutely need drainage as I am on the low spot (on saltwater) of the slope. I already have a french drain around the house down to the water so it will tie into that.
 
   / Retaining walls and patio #284  
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Unnecessary driveway all poured. Going to cut the control joints this morning.
 

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   / Retaining walls and patio #286  
The good thing about pouring on a slope is that they can't add too much water like a lot of them do when pouring a level pad!!!!
 
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The good thing about pouring on a slope is that they can't add too much water like a lot of them do when pouring a level pad!!!!
Yeah the mix was a bit dry, kept it in place.

The finishers like that soupy pea gravel mix but it isn't strong enough for anything other than walkways IMO.
 
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20 hours later.

Looks like the concrete poured from the first truck that had retardant in it already has hairline cracks. The concrete from the second truck without retardant has no cracking whatsoever.

I've seen some of the concrete guys on YouTube talk about this happening but no conclusive answers on the cause other than that they blame the mix. In this case using two different mixes gives an obvious explanation. It's the mix.

I didn't expect any issues since the steps were poured with even more retardant since there was a lot of hand work to be done on the finishing and it was almost 90 degrees that day. Yesterday was in the high 60s.

Not going to tear it up and redo it but this just goes to show you that many factors come into play.
 

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   / Retaining walls and patio #289  
I am not seeing your initials scratched in along with a handprint anywhere. :oops:
 
   / Retaining walls and patio #290  
You can avoid engineering on a 10 ft retaining wall in Washington if you go with those decorative ecology block sized bricks. But even then you still need a good base and a drainage plan (French Drain) and moisture barrier or you'll likely be sorry. Poured concrete 10 ft high retaining walls have their share of pitfalls too. I've seen some catastrophic failures with those in wet areas. No matter how you do it, a 10 ft high retaining wall is a serious wall that needs careful attention to detail.
Maybe on your side... not around here. 4ft max.
 

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