Retorquing wheels
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Thanks John.
If you are using flat washers, have you met these.
I understand they are frequently used under flat wheel nuts and bolts.
Kind Regards, Mike
On a class eight the new style is a nut with a captive washer, and you are suppose to lube the washer to nut section so the washer does not turn on the rim,
On a lot of aluminum auto rims they use a washer I lube them between the nut and washer also.
If you look at a rim and it has a rust streak spokeing away from the studs that wheel is loose.
On a lot of aluminum auto rims they use a washer I lube them between the nut and washer also.
If you look at a rim and it has a rust streak spokeing away from the studs that wheel is loose.
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In a word: "No"! But in listening to others, I want to say that all of my applications have been with "cone" nuts, (on Cars/trucks) and "Cone" bolts, on my Boats trailers, etc. I just moderately treat the threads. ~Scotty
PS- I don't think I've ever seen a 'spinning' washer on a wheel-mount fastener. ~S
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If we are talking about the same thing, my F250 has a spin washer on the lug nuts. The owner's manual advises putting one drop of 30W oil on the washer only when remounting and torquing in sequence.
Thanks for that information Oldballs.
That's interesting, since they tell you to use oil, I guess they also tell you a torque setting for bolts with oiled washers.
Mike
Thanks Scotty.
Like you, I work mainly with cone nuts.
I'd come to the conclusion that cone bolts or nuts shoulders galling (cold welding) to the wheels was a major factor in making them difficult to get off.
Like you, I've greased wheel bolts studs for years, and not had a problem with them loosening.
Unlike you, I've greased the shoulders.
Now my truck, which develops more power, goes round corners faster, and stops faster has 5 skinny bolts instead of 6 butch bolts. Not mention much less metal in the wheel and carries the same weight.
So I'm scratching my head a bit about mixing the old ways with new technology.
Kinda like new wine in old bottles?
Anyhoew, that's why I am interested in learning from other's experience.
The only times I've come across spinning (I know them as captive washers) is on aluminium wheels.
The reason I know for using spinning washer is that the guys in the tyre shops were running the nuts with Windy's.
The nuts spread the soft aluminiun making the wheels unusable.
To get over the problem, manufacturers fitted the spinning washers.
Mike
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I can see where torquing a steel cone nut repeatedy, into an Aluminun rim, could result in [rim] metal loss. Guess I've been fortunate not to have to change tires enough that it's been an issue........ ~S
From what I understood, the tyre fitters just let rip with their air wrenches.
The inertia from the tool, combined with the power of the wrench wound the cone nut into the aluminium.
I've also seen steel rims that folks reckon to have been damaged by over-tightened wheel nuts.
Mike