Rimguard vs. Methanol

[DiezNutz]

And I dont like the Zinc reaction.

"Zinc as in galvanized iron: yields hydrogen gas, which may explode under these conditions"

So much for the "non-flammable" argument. I guess you'll be allright as long as you don't run over any HD galv nails.

 

[IslandTractor]

RimGuard has nothing to do with calcium chloride. RimGuard is beet juice sugar solution and is indeed about as non toxic as water and vegetable juice. OSHA classifies it as acceptable for animal feed (!) and states it is biodegradable. I don't know what this other info is about but it seems like possible counterfit.

 

[DiezNutz]

I don't know what this other info is about
but it seems like possible counterfit.

I was having too much fun to want to point this out but...

...evidently there are (or were) two products referred to as "Rim Guard".
The link is to a somewhat outdated Ballast Star website (unrelated to RimGuard, Inc.) , and even though the site says "Rim Guard" the actual MSDS is for a product called CITRASTAR-50.

Google strikes again. :laughing:

Here's the MSDS for the "real" RimGuard, which tells you next to nothing about it. Obviously a different compound, though.
http://www.rimguard.biz/Documentation/MaterialSafetyDataSheet.pdf

 

[k0ua]

Well, I got the stuff off of their web site. Ballastar. ie RimGuard..
go to this link and check out the MSDS sheet in the upper left hand corner.
BallastStar - RIM GUARD Spec Sheet

does not say a thing about beet juice.. looks like Rimguard is calcium cloride, and a propriatary rust inhibitor, and a dye according to the MSDS sheet.

I for one sure dont know, I am just going by what is on their web site, Unless this is some plot to discredit Rim Guard.

James K0UA

 

[k0ua]

I was having too much fun to want to point this out but...

...evidently there are (or were) two products referred to as Rim Guard.
The link is to a somewhat outdated Ballast Star website (unrelated to RimGuard, Inc.) , and even though the site says "Rim Guard" the actual MSDS is for a product called CITRASTAR-50.

Google strikes again.


Maybe it is a plot to discredit RimGuard.. I see now what you mean:thumbsup:
James K0UA

 

[IslandTractor]

I was having too much fun to want to point this out but...

...evidently there are (or were) two products referred to as Rim Guard.
The link is to a somewhat outdated Ballast Star website (unrelated to RimGuard, Inc.) , and even though the site says "Rim Guard" the actual MSDS is for a product called CITRASTAR-50.

Google strikes again.

Maybe it is a plot to discredit RimGuard.. I see now what you mean:thumbsup:
James K0UA

Check out www.rimguard.biz for the "real" RimGuard info and MSDS

 

[k0ua]

Check out Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast for the "real" RimGuard info and MSDS

Yep, I stepped in it...bought in to the scam., tnx
James K0UA

 

[djradz]

YEP, Rimguard is from beets, essentiall beet-juice, nothing more. Made right here in the farmlands of Michigan. Used some on my cereal just this morning - yum!

That link to that other stuff of the same name should be deleted - just leads people to bad information.

According to the MSDS un the OSHA hazards section, it even says it's "approved for animal feed use".

Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

 

[Johnny_B]

YEP, Rimguard is from beets, essentiall beet-juice, nothing more. Made right here in the farmlands of Michigan. Used some on my cereal just this morning - yum!

That link to that other stuff of the same name should be deleted - just leads people to bad information.

According to the MSDS un the OSHA hazards section, it even says it's "approved for animal feed use".

Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

I guess the devil is in the details. Make sure when you request Rimguard from your dealer, you request the "Rimguard" spelled as one word, made from beet juice, by the company w/ the same name, and not the "Rim Guard" as two words (aka Citrastar). Seems like a little copyright infringement going on here.

 

[Johnny_B]

I also noticed something funny on the Ballast Star website where it lists their phony version of è¿*im Guard as:
Biodegradable / Corrosion Resistant / Non-Hasardous. I guess the are being truthful that it is non-hasardous (whatever that means), but it is hazardous.

If you can't even use a spell-checker when developing your website...maybe you shouldn't even bother.:laughing:

 

[Duffster]

Calcium Chloride isn't a hazardous material either.

 

[IslandTractor]

Calcium Chloride isn't a hazardous material either.

Yeah but you cannot feed it to livestock.

 

[Duffster]

Yeah but you cannot feed it to livestock.

You sure about that?

It is a salt.

 

[DiezNutz]

Yeah but you cannot feed it to livestock.

Why would you want to feed either thing to livestock, really...

Last thing anybody wants after spending all that $$ on RimGuard is to come out one morning to find the tractor tires flat and the cows all sloshed on beet juice.

 

[Johnny_B]

Calcium Chloride isn't a hazardous material either.

I never said it was a hazardous material, but it is hazardous. It is a matter of semantics. It isn't hazardous at the levels we are typically exposed at (infact water is loaded with sodium and calcium ions as sodium and calcium chlorides, but calcium chloride can be considered toxic, it just depends on the dose (concentration and exposure duration). All chemicals are toxic. I could make an easy argument that oxygen is toxic and could be considered hazardous...

Anyhow, sorry to high jack this thread...I'll shut-up now. Bottom line in my opinion, not much of a difference in environmentally friendliness between WWF, Rim Guard, or Rimguard.

 

[IslandTractor]

Bottom line in my opinion, not much of a difference in environmentally friendliness between WWF, Rim Guard, or Rimguard.

I know that I would much rather dump thirty gallons of beet juice or diluted methanol into my garden than a concentrated CaCl solution. Recall that the Romans salted Egyptian fields as a punishment.

 

[TripleR]

I know that I would much rather dump thirty gallons of beet juice or diluted methanol into my garden than a concentrated CaCl solution. Recall that the Romans salted Egyptian fields as a punishment.

"There is a popular misconception that when Rome conquered Carthage, they salted the farmlands to prevent anything from growing. In fact, this is a 20th century myth which has no bearing in reality. When the Romans conquered Carthage, they went from house to house capturing slaves and slaughtering the rest. They burnt the city to the ground and left it as a pile of ruins. This resulted in the loss of a great deal of historical information on Carthage, which makes the study of it difficult in modern times."

 

[gauthier]

Prove it.....:laughing:

 

[Wacky]

"There is a popular misconception that when Rome conquered Carthage, they salted the farmlands to prevent anything from growing. In fact, this is a 20th century myth which has no bearing in reality. When the Romans conquered Carthage, they went from house to house capturing slaves and slaughtering the rest. They burnt the city to the ground and left it as a pile of ruins. This resulted in the loss of a great deal of historical information on Carthage, which makes the study of it difficult in modern times."

Interesting.

 

[Wacky]

I have the Methanol mix. At least that is what I was told they put in there. I have just my 2 rears filled. Is there anyway to see if it is what they claim they put in there. When I traded the wrecked GC for this new one I just had them switch the rears. Since they were not very honest with me from the get-go, I just want to make sure it isn't calcium chloride. By the way which is more expensive?? I am sure whichever is cheaper is what I have.