Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ??

   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #81  
I just may pick up a small filter and let the breather just vent to atmosphere through it. I'll put a loop or two in the line so oil can't make it out and pipe it away from anything hot just in case. When I was racing we would just replace the PCV with a filter. Trying to fit a shut off valve in the air intake line sounds like it could be hard. However if someone does it I would love to see pictures and what parts were used.

I uess this is one of those subjects that touch everyone here since it could happen to any of us.
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #82  
When I went for my "ride", I shut the engine off in less than a second after it hit the ground. No run on. Have no idea if how long you wait to shut it off has any effect or not.

I hiked up using the ROPs, and then when it hit the ground I dropped down and turned off the key. I had the hay bail in the backhoe :ashamed:, so the tip-trip was somewhat slow motion and gentle, it took about 1.5 seconds.

An amazing amount of learning packed into a few seconds on that day...:eek: The picture does not do the slope justice (well, or, maybee it does...)

Pete
 

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   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #83  
Differential lock! High Range! it might be possible.

If you look at my avatar, that's a L4850 that flipped head over heals twice. I was not the operator. The operator was not wearing a seat belt, he jumped, the roll bar bent over. It was all operator error. The tractor came to rest on its side, the 5 cylinder diesel running. That model has a electric fuel shutoff and a manual fuel shut off. It killed the engine, luckily. I sure hope this owner that posted gets a break.

Think about it. With one wheel in the air, you are not going to stall an engine, reguardless of what kind of transmission you have.
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #84  
I just may pick up a small filter and let the breather just vent to atmosphere through it. I'll put a loop or two in the line so oil can't make it out and pipe it away from anything hot just in case. When I was racing we would just replace the PCV with a filter. Trying to fit a shut off valve in the air intake line sounds like it could be hard. However if someone does it I would love to see pictures and what parts were used.
Al, I thank you for this post. Finally, someone else that "gets it". :thumbsup: And not only might it be hard, but any extra crap you hapharzardly stick in the intake path of a normally-aspirated Diesel will probably create additional restriction/drag and rob performance.

Gang, if you "break" the connection between valve cover and intake, and therefore the alternative fuel oil supply, you've succeeded. Either by a cutoff valve in the breather tube, or by converting to an external breather. There is no need for some sort of convoluted jury-rigged air shutoff! I don't mean to sound preachy, but it's like people aren't even reading what they are posting, let alone what others have posted.

Now, if you were planning on operating your tractor near a massive natural gas leak, that's a different story altogether, and maybe you do need an air shutoff. However in that scenario, I doubt runaway should be your biggest concern... and maybe you should be running away instead. ;)

I guess on the electronic injection engines this would not be an issue since the ignition key would kill the injection system.
Makes no difference. The ignition key "killed" the OP's injection system. A common rail/piezo injector system would have done the same thing in this situation, as the injection system was not the source of fuel.
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #85  
Instead of a breather alone, go for a catch can such as this:

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   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #86  
DiezNutz,

Okay, you sort of chided me for my post:

Somebody didn't read before posting. :p

However, you're not the only one...

Originally Posted by Big Wave D
Is there any way to splice a check/ball valve into the crankcase vent tube to at least prohibit enough oil from making its way into the air intake to support continue running?

How is it any different than what you're suggesting?

I see that the best choice might be to completely take away the path from valve cover to intake, but you yourself posted
, "
Either by a cutoff valve in the breather tube, or by converting to an external breather."

What didn't "I read before posting"? :confused::confused:

It appears we are saying the same thing.
:)
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #87  
It appears we are saying the same thing. :)
Oh, we are. :)

Way back at post #11.
CrazyAl's post #16.
Me again, post #54.
Your question, post #57. Granted, I posted a lot and maybe you didn't feel like reading it all. :laughing:

Sorry Friend, I didn't mean to single you out or seem like I was chiding you... :eek: Think of it more as a good-natured poke in the ribs. :D You just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when I was making a point about many redundant posts because it seemed like nobody was reading what anybody else wrote.

No offense, I hope!
-DN
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #88  
I did this with my BX24. Was mowing with my rotary cutter on a slight incline. It was the first time I had mowed this property. I stump pushed up on my cutter and tipped the tractor over. I got off with the engine RPM getting faster and faster, oil flying it the air. Looked like I struck oil!! I had everything off and was dumb founded why the thing wouldn't shut off. My neighbor came running up, we were able to open the hood, He grabbed the air intake hose and squeezed it together and chocked the engine till it quit running. What an oily mess.... He went and got his old 8N pulled me up right and I left it there over night. Came out the next day added oil and prayed. Turned the key and it fired back up. Took it home, changed the oil and have been using it ever since. That was around 50 hrs ago. It think the engine is a little noisier now (or I am just paranoid now) but it does everything like it used to and you'd never know it was on its side. It's a tough little tracter. It thinks it is bigger than it is.
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #89  
. . .Came out the next day added oil and prayed. Turned the key and it fired back up. . . .
At the risk of being redundant, and for the benefit of others who may start reading before the end of this thread, this a repeat of one of the things I learned here:

After a rollover, DO NOT START THE ENGINE before ensuring there is not a hydraulic lock. Turn it over by hand. If you cannot, remove glowplugs and turn over to remove the fluid blocking the pistons. Attempting to start the engine with a lock will bend rods, or worse.
 
   / Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ?? #90  
Little off topic but does have to do with the burning of oil, anybody driving around smelling like french fries?

I've heard of people running automotive diesels (usually old Mercedes, it seems like) and even heard of a tour bus on food grade oil.

Has anyone done this with their tractor because they have a cheap/free and plentiful source?

Your injectors and pump would have liberally lubricated. :D :laughing::laughing:
 

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