k0ua
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It is just a nervous reflex to check, check, and recheck them.
That is a nervous reflex you want to keep. I do the same thing. Even it the firearm leaves my hand for a second and I set it down, Check it again.
It is just a nervous reflex to check, check, and recheck them.
My wife packs this in her purse or jeans everywhere she goes. When I was buying it at Rural King I got a lot of laughs. "What are you gonna do with that big guy". I just laughed and said it is for my wife and I think it would ruin your plans for the evening if you were to get shot center mast with it.
I had bought her a semi-auto but she said it was too heavy and stopped carrying it.
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I think there is an equally good chance that it will be someone connected to your congregation - jilted lover, angry divorcee, domestic abuser, crazed child, etc. In any case, an attacker is an attacker.
PS: I hope your church is the loving, kind and tolerant type - especially if the congregants are packing heat.
At the risk of raising a semi-zombiefied thread...(but I just came across this one, and it's new to me...)
And this is not regarding the OP's question regarding the gun to choose, but rather the application described...
Our church, and I'm sure many others, began discussions about security and safety after the church and school shootings. We developed a church safety and security team, have met several times and created action plans regarding emergency situations. These include everything from heart attacks to gas leaks to floods, fires, tornadoes and earthquakes. We have upgraded our first aid kits and fire extinguishers, added a full trauma bag (we are fortunate that we have several RNs present in the congregation) and added an AED. We have had classes for the AED. We will be holding a basic first aid class and then later a first aid/CPR class.
Next week we are having a CCDW class.
One other thing that we have added, this is is a big one, is a security camera system. It will be actively monitored during services. We went to the trouble to make it so that it is virtually unnoticeable to visitors and the congregation at large. There are a total of 13 cameras with several monitoring all of the approaches to the church (we are fortunate in that the church sits in the middle of a cemetery and there are no hidden approaches. The hope is that if the monitoring person were to see someone strange approaching, carrying a suspicious object (say rifle shaped or a bag that might conceal a bomb/weapon), then they could raise the alarm and we (the congregation) might have 30 seconds warning to prepare (evacuate, shelter-in-place, etc.)
By no means is this solution fool-proof, and in itself, it will not stop an active shooter. In our small congregation (usual attendance is between 50 and 60), there are 7-10 of us that, on any given Sunday, carry a weapon. Several of us know who carries. Others in the congregation do not know and do not care to know, or do not wish to be known.
I just mention this because the system we purchased from Amazon ($500) was very easy to install (by me, my son and nephew on a couple of Saturdays) and will also passively monitor the premises when we are not on-site. We've had three break-ins in the past 6 years, with nothing of value stolen (because there is nothing of real monetary value present at the church). The DVR itself is concealed in a heavily built cabinet that is anchored to the floor and wall. Inside the cabinet is a locked steel security cabinet that holds the DVR, so hopefully if someone breaks in, they can't access the DVR and steal it.
The idea is to try to give some warning to the congregation should their be an active shooter/attacker. I truly hope it is never tested. I just thought I might mention that to any others who may be considering the same situation for their church or other activity where people gather.
Good luck and take care.
At the risk of raising a semi-zombiefied thread...(but I just came across this one, and it's new to me...)
And this is not regarding the OP's question regarding the gun to choose, but rather the application described...
Our church, and I'm sure many others, began discussions about security and safety after the church and school shootings. We developed a church safety and security team, have met several times and created action plans regarding emergency situations. These include everything from heart attacks to gas leaks to floods, fires, tornadoes and earthquakes. We have upgraded our first aid kits and fire extinguishers, added a full trauma bag (we are fortunate that we have several RNs present in the congregation) and added an AED. We have had classes for the AED. We will be holding a basic first aid class and then later a first aid/CPR class.
Next week we are having a CCDW class.
One other thing that we have added, this is is a big one, is a security camera system. It will be actively monitored during services. We went to the trouble to make it so that it is virtually unnoticeable to visitors and the congregation at large. There are a total of 13 cameras with several monitoring all of the approaches to the church (we are fortunate in that the church sits in the middle of a cemetery and there are no hidden approaches. The hope is that if the monitoring person were to see someone strange approaching, carrying a suspicious object (say rifle shaped or a bag that might conceal a bomb/weapon), then they could raise the alarm and we (the congregation) might have 30 seconds warning to prepare (evacuate, shelter-in-place, etc.)
By no means is this solution fool-proof, and in itself, it will not stop an active shooter. In our small congregation (usual attendance is between 50 and 60), there are 7-10 of us that, on any given Sunday, carry a weapon. Several of us know who carries. Others in the congregation do not know and do not care to know, or do not wish to be known.
I just mention this because the system we purchased from Amazon ($500) was very easy to install (by me, my son and nephew on a couple of Saturdays) and will also passively monitor the premises when we are not on-site. We've had three break-ins in the past 6 years, with nothing of value stolen (because there is nothing of real monetary value present at the church). The DVR itself is concealed in a heavily built cabinet that is anchored to the floor and wall. Inside the cabinet is a locked steel security cabinet that holds the DVR, so hopefully if someone breaks in, they can't access the DVR and steal it.
The idea is to try to give some warning to the congregation should their be an active shooter/attacker. I truly hope it is never tested. I just thought I might mention that to any others who may be considering the same situation for their church or other activity where people gather.
Good luck and take care.
I am giving this thread a bump, because , unfortunately, it turned out to be prescient.
Texas church shooting: Suspect fatally shoots 2 before parishioners kill him - CNN
Six seconds from start to finish with bad guy laying on floor dead. That is a pretty good response to evil I think.