Rural trash

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

( I throw it into a 10' pit I had a backhoe make for me. )
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This is what I would do here if i had a few acres out in the boonies.

dlabrie · Feb 18, 2005

Where I live, I have to hall trash myself to the recycling center, no pick up. My road is not plowed or maintained in any way. The school bus won't come out here. No town water or sewer. And for all of these services, I get to pay $4200/year in property tax. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

( Seems that trash disposal is a problem everywhere. Changes to environmental laws a few years ago closed county operated landfills in most Mississippi counties (I lived there at the time) and the county supervisors were faced with huge costs from commercial contractors. In the area where I lived they soon realized that they would have to do something to provide trash/garbage collection or they would be paying crews to pick it up off the roadsides. )
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Here we have several illegal dumps on private land in the country where people just take their trash and throw it in some hollow on somebodys land out in the boon docks.
Seems to me it would have been better to keep this trash at the 3 dumps we had rather than the EPA closing them down and spreading the garbage out in the open all over the country side.
This is the problem with regulations - the regulators never stop to consider the consciences of their actions.
When regulators say folks can't do something without providing them an alternative it always tends to make things worse than they were before.

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

( Cities contract trash haulers for their residents; some pick a single company (Waste Management), others allow competition (multiple companies). Those residents see the lowest rates.
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But this is a rip off to the rural residents: It can be one to the city folks too.
I know because I have been burned by that more than once.
Also I have seen the city folks get taken on trash pick up rates because of the city contract with a trash hauler.
Usually when the city contracts with a trash hauler the city residents rate is higher than what rural residents are paying for the same service from the same hauler.
Another serious flaw with city contracts with haulers is it eliminates the city and rural consumers advantage of competition between haulers by driving the haulers that didn't get the contract out of business. That happens every time my city negotiates a contract with a trash hauler.
Another fluke with city contracts is it forces one who is paying a lower trash fee with another hauler to switch to the higher priced hauler.
Makes you wonder what kind of a kick back the city is getting from the hauler???

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

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1*get a 55 gal. drum and punch a few holes in the side. Makes a great burning barrel. When it's about 1/2 full you can dump and spread the ashes.

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I used to do this with a 55 gal drum till I found a better way.
What I do now is cut the bottom clear out of the barrel and set it up on concrete blocks with the holes in the blocks facing out to the side. I place the blocks on top of a pad made with 4" solid blocks.
Cutting the bottom out and setting the barrel on blocks gives a much better up draft through the barrel than you get with holes in the side of the barrel. Also once the ashes get above the holes you loose your up draft.
Another problem with leaving the bottom on the barrel is it fills up with water from the rains.
By leaving the front side open of blocks I simply take a short handle square pointed shovel and shovel the ashes up as needed.
No more dumping a heavy bunch of water soaked ashes out of the barrel and having to shovel them up out of the yard and rake the rest of them out of the grass.

A burning barrel greatly reduces the weekly number of bags of trash generated.

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

( 1*We have "city" pickup as part of our water bill l for $3.00/ton.

2*Before burying your trash, check local regs. Many counties are cracking down on "private landfills", fines can be very stiff. )
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1*My fair city tried to stick me with this rouse once.
Wanted the water so they tried to charge me with trash removal but no trash was being generated or picked up.
Didn't go for that rip off.
2*Guess they would rather see it scattered out in the open all over the country side than have you burry it out of sight on your own land.

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

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1*We have a mandatory trash collection.
2* You pay if you use it or not.
3* I used to burn but two years ago the state pretty much put a bounty on burn barrels.
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2*What a con!
3*Guess they would rather see it wasting valuable space in a land fill or strung out in open illegal dumps.

LBrown59 · Feb 18, 2005

( Where I live, I have to hall trash myself to the recycling center, no pick up. My road is not plowed or maintained in any way. The school bus won't come out here. No town water or sewer.

*And for all of these services, I get to pay $4200/year in property tax. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif )===
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but you get the schools for that.

Bird · Feb 18, 2005

I always drilled one half inch hole in the center of the bottom of my barrels to let any water out, then drilled four half inch holes, more or less evenly spaced about the perimeter at the bottom of the barrel, then sat the barrell on 3 solid bricks to hold it just off the ground to let air under it and water run out. The barrels lasted 2 to 3 years for me that way.

Varmintmist · Feb 18, 2005

45 ACP makes nice holes in a burn barrel, more fun than a pick and less time than a drill. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Shoot at the bottom at a angle and you get holes in the sides to. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif